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08-17-2007, 09:29 PM
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Branham taught polygamy in Marriage & Divorce and some practiced it. The man who began Spoken Word Publications practiced polygamy in a sense he had a woman on the side and his wife and everyone knew it. Pastor Neville was against it and he would not go to Branham Tabernacle because of it. But their were churches throughout the message where this was practiced.
Where was Paul called a 'woman hater?' That came from Branham NOT the Bible like most of the stuff Branham taught.
Go through the Branham messages there is a thread of bais against women in general. Off the wall stuff he would say.
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08-18-2007, 12:55 AM
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Branhamites believe that William Branham was the seventh church age messenger, and if you aren't in the message your aren't in the bride.
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The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.
The first part of your comment raises several questions:
1. Are there seven church ages?
2. Is there a messenger to each age?
3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 and Mat 17:11-12 prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?
Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?
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08-18-2007, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kenod
The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.
The first part of your comment raises several questions:
1. Are there seven church ages?
2. Is there a messenger to each age?
3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 and Mat 17:11-12 prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?
Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?
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1. There ARE a lot more than SEVEN churches. There are over 40 Apostolic Churches in Houston alone.
Jesus addressed SEVEN.
2. No mention of seven church AGES in the Holy Writ.
3. Yes. The meaning of the word "Elijah" is "Jehovah is my God." All who embrace that truth have the spirit and power of Elijah. All who go in the rapture must have that same spirit. As John the Baptist pointed to Jesus, so does the spirit of Elijah today.
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08-18-2007, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by kenod
The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.
The first part of your comment raises several questions:
1. Are there seven church ages?
2. Is there a messenger to each age?
3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 and Mat 17:11-12 prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?
Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?
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Branham taught the evidence of the Holy Ghost was to recognize the messenger and the message for your day. Thus accept ME!!!! And you know it.
1. Nothing in Revelations 1-3 say anything about 7 church ages. It is an ASSUMPTION. May or may not be. Nothing to build a entire following on.
2. Luther a Trinitarian drunkard a messenger???????? Luther had a man killed because he denied the Trinity. Wesley taught the Trinity. Branham couldn't make up his mind what he was it depended on where he was.
3. No the Bible does NOT teach Elijah is appearing before the 2nd coming. You are 1900 years too late. "BUT I say unto you Elias IS COME ALREADY and they knew it not." Mt.17:12 It was one thing for them NOT to know Elijah had already come but what was Branham's excuse he had the written record. Branham got this from Alexander Dowie who taught he(Dowie) was Elijah. He borrowed every false doctrine he taught from another false prophet.
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08-18-2007, 09:11 AM
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Branham taught the evidence of the Holy Ghost was to recognize the messenger and the message for your day. Thus accept ME!!!! And you know it.
1. Nothing in Revelations 1-3 say anything about 7 church ages. It is an ASSUMPTION. May or may not be. Nothing to build a entire following on.
2. Luther a Trinitarian drunkard a messenger???????? Luther had a man killed because he denied the Trinity. Wesley taught the Trinity. Branham couldn't make up his mind what he was it depended on where he was.
3. No the Bible does NOT teach Elijah is appearing before the 2nd coming. You are 1900 years too late. "BUT I say unto you Elias IS COME ALREADY and they knew it not." Mt.17:12 It was one thing for them NOT to know Elijah had already come but what was Branham's excuse he had the written record. Branham got this from Alexander Dowie who taught he(Dowie) was Elijah. He borrowed every false doctrine he taught from another false prophet.
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Where do you get the idea that Luther was an alcoholic? He enjoyed beer but was against excess. He wrote "It is possible to tolerate a little elevation, when a man takes a drink or two too much after working hard and when he is feeling low. This must be called a frolic. But to sit day and night, pouring it in and pouring it out again, is piggish... all food is a matter of freedom, even a modest drink for one's pleasure. If you do not wish to conduct yourself this way, if you are going to go beyond this and be a born pig and guzzle beer and wine, then, if this cannot be stopped by the rulers, you must know that you cannot be saved. For God will not admit such piggish drinkers into the kingdom of heaven [cf. Gal. 5:19-21]... If you are tired and downhearted, take a drink; but this does not mean being a pig and doing nothing but gorging and swilling... You should be moderate and sober; this means that we should not be drunken, though we may be exhilarated."
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08-18-2007, 09:23 AM
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Where do you get the idea that Luther was an alcoholic? He enjoyed beer but was against excess. He wrote "It is possible to tolerate a little elevation, when a man takes a drink or two too much after working hard and when he is feeling low. This must be called a frolic. But to sit day and night, pouring it in and pouring it out again, is piggish... all food is a matter of freedom, even a modest drink for one's pleasure. If you do not wish to conduct yourself this way, if you are going to go beyond this and be a born pig and guzzle beer and wine, then, if this cannot be stopped by the rulers, you must know that you cannot be saved. For God will not admit such piggish drinkers into the kingdom of heaven [cf. Gal. 5:19-21]... If you are tired and downhearted, take a drink; but this does not mean being a pig and doing nothing but gorging and swilling... You should be moderate and sober; this means that we should not be drunken, though we may be exhilarated."
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Dave Branham claimed the Lord spoke to him to NEVER drink or smoke and God would use him. I am defining this by Branham's interpetation, however in Germany where he is considered the Father of Modern Germany they study this in schools. A Branham pastor who is a German and pastors in Germany told me this was a fact he learned in grade school. He had to explain this to his message converts in Germany.
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08-18-2007, 09:20 AM
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The FACTS:
1. The Halo picture(find a halo in scripture) the examiner did NOT say the light was supernatural. Branham stated that over and over again but read the examination it that nothing of the kind. The examiner did NOT believe it was supernatural. Ever hear of Neal Frisby and all his halos?????????
2. The so-called supernatural cloud he claimed appeared in the science magazine. THE DATES ARE NOT THE SAME AS CLAIMED BY BRANHAM!!! A clear hoax. Those guys with him(like Joe Smith's cronies) never saw a thing.
3. I challenge you to find the newspaper report that validates his claim on the river in 1933! His so-called prediction of the men who fell had already happened.
4. Branham by divine inspiration predicted the Millenium in 1977 and America would be destroyed. IN the late 60's and 70's they were preaching that every service. In case you haven't noticed it is 2007 30 years too late.
5. Martin Luther King would lead to the death of 1,000's???????????????????? Excuse me?????? Could you please cite some sources where this happened?
Then I can cite person after person his unfailable gift FAILED and the person did NOT recieve what he claimed they would recieve.
6. Branham appointed jobs for different men that would aid in his "tent vision ministry" the majority are now dead along with Branham will he and they resurrect and have this tent meeting? Why would he need an airplane with a new body? The guy got the plane and was eventually killed in it.
I know this sounds harsh but these are the FACTS!
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08-18-2007, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kenod
The latter part may be what some "Branhamites" say, but what William Branham said was that the only qualification to be in the Bride was to receive the Holy Spirit.
The first part of your comment raises several questions:
1. Are there seven church ages?
2. Is there a messenger to each age?
3. Does Malachi 4:5-6 and Mat 17:11-12 prophecy an "Elijah" to come before the rapture?
Do you think the answer to any of those questions is "yes"?
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1.No The seven churches of Asia ,were seven churches not seven church ages.
2.NO The Bible says nothing of Luther Or Wesley or anyone else being a church age messenger.
3. No John The Baptist did come in the spirit of Elias.John The Baptist warned the religionist of His day to flee the wrath to come.
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08-20-2007, 10:56 PM
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The prophecy concerning Branham is NOT Mal. 4:5 or Rev. 10:7 it is Matthew 24 about false prophets.
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08-17-2007, 10:02 PM
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There is some guy in India, I'm told, that baptises in the name of William Marrion Branham. So I don't think it is a good idea to judge what William Branam said by what some people do!
Is Paul considered a woman hater ... some have obviously heard that idea, even if you haven't, Steve. For example: Many have taken this verse and others within the Pauline Epistles and tried to make out that Paul was a chauvinist, a woman hater, than thus these verses are not inspired Scripture.
plenty more on google William Branham hated immorality and condemned immoral women ... just like Elijah did... and just like John the Baptist did. The moral decline in women's behaviour in the last century is one of the signs of the times.
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