Whaaaaaaatt???? What's happening in Canada??

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

I personally do not baptize in the name of Jesus Christ because I associate doing so with the Godhead. I do so because it is the only name in which I have any authority to baptize anyone. Even if I was Trinitarian, I would still baptize in the name of Jesus Christ.

Possible - just last week an AOG pastor reported he will be baptising "in Jesus name".

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Now if TripleE posts, we will have all 8 of the Canadian AFF members here.

[Birdie]

Just want to have my say on this topic. I'm not into all the political debting etc but have heard from excellent sources, a lot of the old timers, that they would love Canada to be independant of the U.S.A. because they were hood-winked by them in the beginning when they joined up with them. When "the message" came to Canada it was not one of such strictness and they weren't looking for all the standards that came with signing up with the U.S.A. The old timers say they just wanted to see people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and then as they matured in the Lord, get baptized and filled with the Spirit. They believed that the repentant man/woman had to understand salvation and then grow in the Lord. (Be baptized and filled with the Spirit). Too many rules and regulations for the old timers and they say all this "foolishness" of standards has done more harm than good. Now don't get me wrong. They believe in holiness unto God but all this man-made stuff is for the birds. No pun intended.

[Maple Leaf]

Originally Posted by Birdie

Just want to have my say on this topic. I'm not into all the political debting etc but have heard from excellent sources, a lot of the old timers, that they would love Canada to be independant of the U.S.A. because they were hood-winked by them in the beginning when they joined up with them. When "the message" came to Canada it was not one of such strictness and they weren't looking for all the standards that came with signing up with the U.S.A. The old timers say they just wanted to see people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and then as they matured in the Lord, get baptized and filled with the Spirit. They believed that the repentant man/woman had to understand salvation and then grow in the Lord. (Be baptized and filled with the Spirit). Too many rules and regulations for the old timers and they say all this "foolishness" of standards has done more harm than good. Now don't get me wrong. They believe in holiness unto God but all this man-made stuff is for the birds. No pun intended.

Welcome aboard Birdie.

It's always great to have another Canadian show up.

Having said that, I pretty much disagree with your whole post.

[Birdie]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

Welcome aboard Birdie.

It's always great to have another Canadian show up.

Having said that, I pretty much disagree with your whole post.

First. I didn't say I was Canadian and sorry if I misled you to believe that. Second, ask the old time retired preachers their feelings on this topic. They have a lot of years of experience and truly believe that things in Canada have strayed from the way they first started out preaching and believing. Now, some may have come on board with the doctrinal teaching of the U.S.A. but that was not their intent when they first started ministering in the New Brunswick area. Their mission was to see souls saved and lives changed. Ask them about the old days and how things were before the UPC. I think you will be greatly surprised.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Birdie

First. I didn't say I was Canadian and sorry if I misled you to believe that. Second, ask the old time retired preachers their feelings on this topic. They have a lot of years of experience and truly believe that things in Canada have strayed from the way they first started out preaching and believing. Now, some may have come on board with the doctrinal teaching of the U.S.A. but that was not their intent when they first started ministering in the New Brunswick area. Their mission was to see souls saved and lives changed. Ask them about the old days and how things were before the UPC. I think you will be greatly surprised.

Some folks are simply too young to know anything but a district that was already UPC.

[TrueNorth]

Originally Posted by Birdie

Just want to have my say on this topic. I'm not into all the political debting etc but have heard from excellent sources, a lot of the old timers, that they would love Canada to be independant of the U.S.A. because they were hood-winked by them in the beginning when they joined up with them. When "the message" came to Canada it was not one of such strictness and they weren't looking for all the standards that came with signing up with the U.S.A. The old timers say they just wanted to see people accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and then as they matured in the Lord, get baptized and filled with the Spirit. They believed that the repentant man/woman had to understand salvation and then grow in the Lord. (Be baptized and filled with the Spirit). Too many rules and regulations for the old timers and they say all this "foolishness" of standards has done more harm than good. Now don't get me wrong. They believe in holiness unto God but all this man-made stuff is for the birds. No pun intended.

This is like saying that all pioneer preachers had blond hair. It just ain't so.
I do know that much of the "strictiness" came with the teaching of some Bro.'s from the Excited States however some of the homegrown elders were very strict themselves.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

This is like saying that all pioneer preachers had blond hair. It just ain't so.
I do know that much of the "strictiness" came with the teaching of some Bro.'s from the Excited States however some of the homegrown elders were very strict themselves.

Ever hear of McKellops & McElroy & Buster????????????? That is so.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Ever hear of McKellops & McElroy & Buster????????????? That is so.

You could add a few more names to that list. RG Priest for one. And there were a few others. I think though that overall there was always what I felt was a moderate position held by most of the Atlantic District men.

I love the point that's been made here a few times ..... and that is the fact that the UPCI in Canada ihas been most largely represented in the East and most significantly in New Brunswick.

[Steve Epley]

I think I enjoyed the Canada thread on FCF more than any of them.