The Oneness Anti "Christ" doctrine ....

Originally Posted by Jekyll

No debate necessary, Bro. Jones. I know different convictions float different boats...there are some APOSTOLIC or PENTECOSTAL songs I refuse to sing because of my convictions and revelation of the oneness and absolute authority of Jesus Christ. Thanks for the differentiation.

Thanks for understanding...

BTW.. I am just like you in regard to some of the songs Apostolics sing...

i just change the words to be Biblically correct and sing REAL LOUD!

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by philjones

Thanks for understanding...

BTW.. I am just like you in regard to some of the songs Apostolics sing...

i just change the words to be Biblically correct and sing REAL LOUD!

It was pretty cool...I am known around here for making up words on the fly when I forget the real ones...

My son got his first solo in the kid's chorale the other day and beat all if he didn't switch around the last two lines on the second verse...the presentation was for mother's day, but I couldn't have been more proud of my little chip off the ole block...

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

We did oppose this teaching .... it lacked balance and understanding of scripture ... I simply felt it was used as pre-text to bring strife within the body and a feeling of spiritual superiority ....

I agree there is no efficacy in the title but to abandon it's usage is outright LOONEY ....

On this we can certainly agree!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by philjones

Praxeas,

Not to debate, but to ask you a question... is your advocacy in the finished work of the cross or is Jesus the Son running to Jesus the Father pleading your case?

He finished the work on the cross but HE is still our mediator of the covenent. The wrong thinking here is that HE did not die on the cross. He did not accomplish it on the cross....rather his skin or flesh did. I deny that. HE died. it was HIS death that matters and HE rose from the dead and HE still lives! He is still our High Priest...a position assigned to men. As long as there is a covenant to mediate there MUST still be a mediator of that covenant. He ever liveth to fulfill that position. HE is forever our High priest after the order of Melchizedek.

That, to me, is more than enough to know that HE is still Christ, the Son, let alone all the other scriptures after the resurrection that speak of him as the Christ.

His work on the cross was finished on the cross, but his work AFTER the cross through the resurrection will NEVER end

Rom 1:4 who was appointed the Son-of-God-in-power according to the Holy Spirit by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

He finished the work on the cross but HE is still our mediator of the covenent. The wrong thinking here is that HE did not die on the cross. He did not accomplish it on the cross....rather his skin or flesh did. I deny that. HE died. it was HIS death that matters and HE rose from the dead and HE still lives! He is still our High Priest...a position assigned to men. As long as there is a covenant to mediate there MUST still be a mediator of that covenant. He ever liveth to fulfill that position. HE is forever our High priest after the order of Melchizedek.

That, to me, is more than enough to know that HE is still Christ, the Son, let alone all the other scriptures after the resurrection that speak of him as the Christ.

His work on the cross was finished on the cross, but his work AFTER the cross through the resurrection will NEVER end

Rom 1:4 who was appointed the Son-of-God-in-power according to the Holy Spirit by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord.

We disagree but that is OK with me! I hope it is alright with you!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by philjones

We disagree but that is OK with me! I hope it is alright with you!

pfffffffftttttt. .... and they say I'm a compromiser....

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

pfffffffftttttt. .... and they say I'm a compromiser....

I disagree with you too and THAT is OK with me... I hope it is alright with You!

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I think the common use of Cristo by the hispanic Catholic and trinitarian communities is partially what has alienated this group from using it.

I was not in anyway defending the group you were discussing. I was suggesting that the fact that Jesus is a common name in the Hispanic community, could be why many are more comfortable with Cristo. Just a thought, that I had not considered before reading this thread.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by philjones

I think that what CrakJak was saying was, the common use of Cristo in the Latin community is because of the common use of Jesus as a given name in the Latin community. I don't think he was addressing the attack of the men who forbade the use of Cristo alone.

That's correct Phil, that thought came as I was reading your post.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by philjones

Thanks for understanding...

BTW.. I am just like you in regard to some of the songs Apostolics sing...

i just change the words to be Biblically correct and sing REAL LOUD!

I tend to do that when I hear the Doxology sang!