Marriage Rejuvenation?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're so caught up in this world EB. It's glitz, it's glamour, it's power structures. You think licensing makes you something special. You think if something is licensed with the government it is real, and if it isn't licensed with the government it's fake. Here you betray yourself. You reveal that your God is human government and incorporated power structures of religion. My friend, none of that is eternal. You really think the constructs around you are of God? Do you believe that God is aligned with all the incorporation, licensing, etc., etc.? Do you think God blesses "civil marriages" when the laws government them are not only unbiblical, but are Hell bent on embracing the ways of Sodom? We don't. To us being "separate" from the world (holy) is far more than a dress code (because that's all you have). It is a manner of living. We believe in rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's. Therefore, it is God who joins a man and woman in marriage, not Caesar. Now, that couple can go before Caesar and ask him to recognize their union for government benefits if they choose. But we do not see them as being bound to do so.

Oh, my! The above RED statement is one of the funniest things I've seen said about Bro. Benincasa in a long time!

Believe me, Aquila, you REALLY have no idea who Bro. Benincasa is if you seriously believe what you said above.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

Oh, my! The above RED statement is one of the funniest things I've seen said about Bro. Benincasa in a long time!

Believe me, Aquila, you REALLY have no idea who Bro. Benincasa is if you seriously believe what you said above.

Thank Brother Burk.

Aquila is confused about how Paul thought about government.
If it weren't for his Freeborn Roman citizenship, he wouldn't of survived long enough to write his epistles.

So, Aquila how'd you get divorced?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Evang.Benincasa,

You've continually stalked me, harassed me, insulted me, slandered me, mocked me, and misrepresented me.

What do you want? Just say it.

Let's end this foolishness and tell me what it will take for you to calm down and actually talk with me rationally? In most forums you'd already be banned for such personal attacks and near menacing behavior. I honestly don't know why the admins here haven't at least asked you to be more civil. I've requested that they do so, but nothing became of it. And that's their prerogative I guess. They can do as they wish.

Look, I'm not an evangelist. Although I thought I was called for a time and became involved with ministry, I'm no longer interested in being a minister of any kind. I'm just an average Joe. And you're also right, I'm a mess. I don't profess to be perfect. In fact, I've spoken freely about many of my imperfections and less than ideal circumstances. Trust me, I could have chosen not to say a word about me or my life. I could have hidden in anonymity and pretended that all was well. But I didn't. All my contradictions, imperfections, sin, fears, concerns, failures, hurt, experiences, wounds, scars, etc... most of me is laid out in the open. In fact, I've put enough out here on this forum about me, I've sealed the coffin on any opportunity to minister ever again. In fact, you've kind of helped me in that. And for that I'm really grateful. But I'm now growing weary with your endless attacks. Why don't we just settle things like rational people? I'm right here.

And let me assure you, I am a joke. I'm not important. I don't have an office or position in any church. And as previously said, I'm a mess. You're the "evangelist". You're the dude in a shirt and tie with a mission. You've been called to some real important stuff. In fact, you've even appointed yourself as my own personal judge and jury. So, let's stop wasting time. What is it....?

What do you want?
What is your goal in all of this non-stop harassment?
What do you want from me?
What is it that you hope all of this will accomplish?

Please drop the insults and just talk to me. What are you needing from me to end this endless war between us?

Are you wanting to somehow get me to renounce my faith? Are you wanting me to pray through and become you find acceptable? Are you wanting me to leave the forum? Are you wanting me feel so emotionally damaged that I jump off of a bridge somewhere? Are you just testing my resolve? Are you just incapable of controlling yourself? Is personally insulting me non-stop just something you simply get enjoyment from? Are you wanting me to change political parties? Are you wanting me to be converted to Preterism?

Once you tell me, I can think things over and determine if what you're wanting is within my ability.

What do you want? What is your goal in all of this?

You have my undivided attention.

He wants War. And you are a man of peace.

[Amanah]

Brother Aquila, There isn't anything more precious than the souls of your family. Time passes, children grow up, and all the selfish things that we do come back to confront us in the form of regrets. Forgive me for being candid in my thoughts, let me just say that I've been praying for you and to me it seems simple. Legally marry your wife, take your family to an apostolic church, be still, sit and listen and find God's direction. Give your family every chance to be saved because it really isn't about you. Turn off the news, the media, the world and seek the face of God for your family.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Brother Aquila, There isn't anything more precious than the souls of your family. Time passes, children grow up, and all the selfish things that we do come back to confront us in the form of regrets. Forgive me for being candid in my thoughts, let me just say that I've been praying for you and to me it seems simple. Legally marry your wife, take your family to an apostolic church, be still, sit and listen and find God's direction. Give your family every chance to be saved because it really isn't about you. Turn off the news, the media, the world and seek the face of God for your family.

Aquila, this is the simplicity of the whole matter.

Instead of focusing on how messed up you are, and reveling in that condition.

Take Sister Amanah's advise, and your own concerning a time of prayer, fasting, and getting soaked in the word.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Brother Aquila, There isn't anything more precious than the souls of your family. Time passes, children grow up, and all the selfish things that we do come back to confront us in the form of regrets. Forgive me for being candid in my thoughts, let me just say that I've been praying for you and to me it seems simple. Legally marry your wife, take your family to an apostolic church, be still, sit and listen and find God's direction. Give your family every chance to be saved because it really isn't about you. Turn off the news, the media, the world and seek the face of God for your family.

Amen!

[Aquila]

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Chris, strength is never a weakness. So the above needs to be considered only by you. You need to take your own advise, and heal thyself.
I can literally line a city street with people who parrot the very same words. They move ever so gently, telling everyone they are full of mess, sinners to the raging core. Yet, saved by grace, as you listen to them, you could swear you hear the shuffle of angel's feet. But when the preacher tells them to get back on track and live right through the power of the cross they refuse. Because they are more focused on sin, then repentance. They aren't struggling, they are flat out refusing to get right. Bro, the wheat never massage the tares, or look to have a lovely time of chatting while you destroy yourself and others. Ever heard, real friends don't let friends dive drunk? I'm not going to stand around while you make believe, and just let you walk off the cliff with people following you.

If you were really concerned with my spiritual welfare you wouldn't be openly harassing me and slandering me publically. Previous generations might have been given to such social pressure. My generation sees this as a tactic employed by the weak and cowardly. If you're brave and your motives pure, consult me privately. I might have taken you seriously if you conversed with me in private message. But the spectacle you've made it out in the open only shows that you're out for slander and defamation. You couldn't care less about my soul. This is how I know that you're only a lair, a fake, and an abuser.

In addition based on what you have expressed to me since I've known you, to "get right", would include:

1.) Sobbing in a blithering mess under your watchful eye in a prayer room.
2.) Becoming a conservative Republican.
3.) Renouncing any concern for social justice.
4.) Denying the notion that some might need psychological care.
5.) Denying that PTSD even exists.
6.) Demanding that my wife not work or peruse any of her dreams.
7.) Entering a civil contract with the state that binds my marriage to being governed by unbiblical laws.
8.) Raising my kids in a bubble of religious isolation.
9.) Attending some artificial structure filled with bang-clang music and sycophants that pander to a single man in a suit.
10.) Sit in a row of noses every Sunday.
11.) Pay my tithes to the man in the suit.
12.) Dress and live exactly as the man in the suit tells me.
13.) And claim all of this makes me holier than those who don't do these things.

Only after I did these things would you think I had "gotten right". And I find the above to be pure foolishness.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Aquila

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If you were really concerned with my spiritual welfare you wouldn't be openly harassing me and slandering me publically. Previous generations might have been given to such social pressure. My generation sees this as a tactic employed by the weak and cowardly. If you're brave and your motives pure, consult me privately. I might have taken you seriously if you conversed with me in private message. But the spectacle you've made it out in the open only shows that you're out for slander and defamation. You couldn't care less about my soul. This is how I know that you're only a lair, a fake, and an abuser.

In addition based on what you have expressed to me since I've known you, to "get right", would include:

1.) Sobbing in a blithering mess under your watchful eye in a prayer room.
2.) Becoming a conservative Republican.
3.) Renouncing any concern for social justice.
4.) Denying the notion that some might need psychological care.
5.) Denying that PTSD even exists.
6.) Demanding that my wife not work or peruse any of her dreams.
7.) Entering a civil contract with the state that binds my marriage to being governed by unbiblical laws.
8.) Raising my kids in a bubble of religious isolation.
9.) Attending some artificial structure filled with bang-clang music and sycophants that pander to a single man in a suit.
10.) Sit in a row of noses every Sunday.
11.) Pay my tithes to the man in the suit.
12.) Dress and live exactly as the man in the suit tells me.
13.) And claim all of this makes me holier than those who don't do these things.

Only after I did these things would you think I had "gotten right". And I find the above to be pure foolishness.

I am still looking for a verse in which folks were married by the apostles or other disciples in the first century Church

[Evang.Benincasa]

So, divorce doesn't need any officiation either?

Just walk out and find another woman.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Sean

I am still looking for a verse in which folks were married by the apostles or other disciples in the first century Church

We know marriage ceremonies were common during the time of the Apostles. Jesus spoke of such a ceremony here:

Matthew 25:1-13 (KJV) Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. [2] And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. [3] They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: [4] But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. [5] While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. [6] And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. [7] Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. [8] And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. [9] But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. [10] And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. [11] Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. [12] But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. [13] Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Thus, there is no reason to believe this common practice would have ended.