Divorce and remarriage

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by peter83

I think nobody answer to that guy . one is asking the other.for the subject is hot. Hot as hell.
People are dying because the lack of knowledge.
Most of them are innocent victims of some "preacher"
So may the thread dies (like many people) but the subject is there in the Church and is scriptures.

Would you marry a couple that isn’t in church?

[peter83]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Would you marry a couple that isn’t in church?

Marry a couple?
If the pastor would marry a couple from the world?
A non Christian couple you mean?
No. Neither a Christian with a non Christian.
They can marry to a town hall or where they want.

(Although some pastors perform marriages with people of the world . Because of money.
I remember a pastor who performed marriages within a Greek and an immigrant . They only marry in order to get residency in the country).
Why ?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by peter83

Marry a couple?
If the pastor would marry a couple from the world?
A non Christian couple you mean?
No. Neither a Christian with a non Christian.
They can marry to a town hall or where they want.

(Although some pastors perform marriages with people of the world . Because of money.
I remember a pastor who performed marriages within a Greek and an immigrant . They only marry in order to get residency in the country).
Why ?

I didn’t see that was a question that has been brought up.

[mfblume]

FORNICATION in Christ's words of an excepti0on for divorce is ANY SEXUAL SIN. Not just the restricted ENGLISH term of fornication applying only to single people having sex outside marriage.

Jesus said sexual sin of any kind allows for divorce and does not put one in the context of putting away someone to force them to commit adultery.

[peter83]

Originally Posted by mfblume

FORNICATION in Christ's words of an excepti0on for divorce is ANY SEXUAL SIN. Not just the restricted ENGLISH term of fornication applying only to single people having sex outside marriage.

Jesus said sexual sin of any kind allows for divorce and does not put one in the context of putting away someone to force them to commit adultery.

Fornication is any unlawful relationship between non married couples...
From one night stand to the live together.
For example Paul said at Corinthians that the man who had his father's wife was Fornication.
In such situation ge us obligated to put aside his "wife" couse is not marriage and neither can be one.
So how he called? Fornication!
Now Jesus time adultery was not the exception which the Pharisees asked him for!
Adultery was planished to death and a woman who's hausband is dead is free to remarry.
Adultery was not tge exception Jesus spoke.
An other example of Fornication was if the married man found her wife not virgin. Which means (according to the law) she had fornicate before the marriage.
In this situation and only in such situation he could put her aside and then marriy an other because marriage was not valid.
Do you remember Joseph? He wanted to put away Mary for that reason.. because he was a just Man!!!
And according to the law she commited fornication and he could stone her or just leave her.

Now ok. Seems reasonable to give an exception but, if a marriage is broken after one commits adultery (which you call Fornication) then there is not any obligation. Because there is no any law for marriage.
Who takes a divorce and do not remarry an other?
Or who divorces hus wife and don't have a girlfriend?
So any divorced couple can remarry....

Plus the woman is obligated to her husband till he is DEAD....
Do you know any woman wants to marry an other while she lives with her first husband? I don't know any.
Then Paul us speaking for the divorced woman that wants an other hausband.
That's why apostles said to Jesus that if us such obligation to the marriage then better to never marry!!!

I know you have a theology, but i just want to consider those things. Adultery is a sin which is many times referred distinctly from Fornication and us one if the works of the flesh that the man or woman who lives in this sin will loose their salvation!!! Think about.
(And don't tell me its so harsh 😂 for the Lord himself said that the way to salvation is narrow wnd few Will make it)
Ok brother 👍

[james34]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Marriage is permanent from Jesus side. YET he allows exceptions. Fornication and abandonment of the unbeliever.

Remarriage for death is itself an exception.

The only way to be loosed from the law of the spouse is death. Putting away and remarrying are 2 different things.
Which also shows that Gods is not pleased with separation and only is it to be done with reconciliation as the end result.

[peter83]

Originally Posted by james34

The only way to be loosed from the law of the spouse is death. Putting away and remarrying are 2 different things.
Which also shows that Gods is not pleased with separation and only is it to be done with reconciliation as the end result.

τηανκς brother .
yes its simple truth!
again thank you!

Even Jeus has One wife...no?

[peter83]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Would you marry a couple that isn’t in church?

sorry brother..
again excuse me, my question was not so...commiserate
So. i (fr moment i dont perform marriages) but 1 of the reason i left upc,apostolic etv. was this too! they performed some times marriages between people who was divorced and then they marry them! their excuse was that <their old life is forgiven...>> so in their minds
haha thats like a robber of bankes, bu now he repent and so he keep the money...or better still robe baknes! is thst repentance? because every time one enter in the wife of his brother he continue the sin that ....

(like our friend and brother said by the only way to be

[james34]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

She will be standing for her marriage.

There was not full discernment and wisdom going into the marriage.

And I know one young lady in Jerusalem that was a runaway bride as discernment became clearer. Sometimes the orthodox Jews can pretend to be believers, perhaps they convince themselves for a season and a purpose.

Reminds me of Hosea.

[james34]

Why was it unlawful for Herod to have his brothers wife?
Why did John Baptist feel the need to tell a non believer these things?