Prayer Language

[Bro Flame]

When did the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues become a "prayer language"? Has it become more common that one's "prayer language" has taken over a genuine baptism with the Holy Ghost?

[Michael The Disciple]

The main purpose the Bible gives to tongues is prayer. Praying in tongues is every bit as valid as tongues that follow the baptism.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The main purpose the Bible gives to tongues is prayer. Praying in tongues is every bit as valid as tongues that follow the baptism.

Alright. That is valid, but maybe I should be a little more specific in what I mean by "prayer language"?

It seems very common among these bigger, non-denominational churches today to have people praying in what is called a prayer language. There is next to no teaching on the baptism with the Spirit, but tongues is almost like a fad and when someone starts speaking in tongues, that person is said to have "received a prayer language" instead of Spirit baptism.

Has this theology deluded the effect of the baptism with the Holy Ghost as a whole?

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Bro Flame

When did the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues become a "prayer language"? Has it become more common that one's "prayer language" has taken over a genuine baptism with the Holy Ghost?

When speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gave utterance was no longer considered to be the only Biblical indication someone had received the Holy Spirit.

If a person believes you have received the Holy Spirit without speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, then if and when someone does start speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, it has to mean something else, otherwise the person who believes you have received the Holy Spirit without speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, hasn't received the Holy Spirit.

Nice little circle folks have drawn around themselves.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

When speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gave utterance was no longer considered to be the only Biblical indication someone had received the Holy Spirit.

If a person believes you have received the Holy Spirit without speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, then if and when someone does start speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, it has to mean something else, otherwise the person who believes you have received the Holy Spirit without speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance, hasn't received the Holy Spirit.

Nice little circle folks have drawn around themselves.

So basically around the birth of the modern-day Charismatic movement?

Charismatics have never saw tongues as being a necessity for baptism with the Holy Ghost. That was a fundamental doctrine that they did not bring over from traditional Pentecostalism, along with holiness and separation.