Whats The Point Of The Resurrection Of The Dead?

[Michael The Disciple]

Quote from William Tyndale.

William Tyndale, English reformer and Bible translator,
openly opposed the papal doctrine
of the immortality of the human soul -
calling it a heathen and pagan doctrine :

"And ye - papacy - in putting them -souls- in heaven,
hell, and purgatory, destroy the arguments wherewith
Christ and Paul prove the resurrection. . . .
The true faith putteth the resurrection,
which we be warned to look for every hour.
The heathen philosophers, denying that,
did put that the soul did ever live.
And the pope joineth the spiritual doctrine of Christ
and the fleshly doctrine of philosophers together;
things so contrary that they cannot agree...
And because the fleshly minded pope
consenteth unto heathen doctrine,
therefore he corrupteth the scripture to stablish it. . . .
And again, if the souls be in heaven...tell me...
then what cause is there of the resurrection?"
- William Tyndale, English reformer and Bible translator,
An Answer to Sir Thomas More's Dialogue,
Book 4, Chapter 2

Tyndale was the the first to translate the Greek scriptures into the English language.

Here he was asking the same question I am asking today.

If we have an immortal soul what use is there for the resurrection?

[rava61]

Eternal life is the same as IMMORTALITY. Immortality is plainly given at the RESURRECTION.

I have to disagree with this statement because 'immortality' actually begins when you take your first breath and the soul is created. We are eternal beings from the time of our birth (not our conception); however, the body (house) that we inhabit is mortal, so it has to be resurrected or recreated - thus, He gives us a 'new body like until His own' as the Apostle Paul tells us.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by rava61

Eternal life is the same as IMMORTALITY. Immortality is plainly given at the RESURRECTION.

I have to disagree with this statement because 'immortality' actually begins when you take your first breath and the soul is created. We are eternal beings from the time of our birth (not our conception); however, the body (house) that we inhabit is mortal, so it has to be resurrected or recreated - thus, He gives us a 'new body like until His own' as the Apostle Paul tells us.

Immortality at birth? Many scriptures witness concerning the death of the soul. That fact cannot be disputed.

[easter]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Quote from William Tyndale.

William Tyndale, English reformer and Bible translator,
openly opposed the papal doctrine
of the immortality of the human soul -
calling it a heathen and pagan doctrine :


Tyndale was the the first to translate the Greek scriptures into the English language.

Here he was asking the same question I am asking today.

If we have an immortal soul what use is there for the resurrection?

To get your glorified body!Simple,plain,what part don't don't you believe?
The Resurrection is to receive your Glorified Body.

[easter]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Immortality at birth? Many scriptures witness concerning the death of the soul. That fact cannot be disputed.

Either way if the Man dies lost,whether he suffers eternity in the lake of fire,or is annihilated all together(which they are not)they will be forever seperated from God and from those who will live eternally in the kingdom of God.

Debating this is pointless,because in the end the lost souls will be dead to us in Heaven.This is the second death.

This is why we should be about the Father's work and spread the good news to a lost and dying world,so that as many souls can be saved from the second death.

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Whether the soul dies or not is of no real consequence to folks willing to serve the Lord.

My thoughts, anyway.

[shag]

Originally Posted by rava61

Eternal life is the same as IMMORTALITY. Immortality is plainly given at the RESURRECTION.

I have to disagree with this statement because 'immortality' actually begins when you take your first breath and the soul is created. We are eternal beings from the time of our birth (not our conception); however, the body (house) that we inhabit is mortal, so it has to be resurrected or recreated - thus, He gives us a 'new body like until His own' as the Apostle Paul tells us.

Rava,

Ive wondered myself for SURE at exactly what point we begin to have a spirit or soul(I do believe life begins at conception, so I lean toward at that time). What all do you base that conclusion off of your statement here?

[easter]

Originally Posted by rava61

Eternal life is the same as IMMORTALITY. Immortality is plainly given at the RESURRECTION.

I have to disagree with this statement because 'immortality' actually begins when you take your first breath and the soul is created. We are eternal beings from the time of our birth (not our conception); however, the body (house) that we inhabit is mortal, so it has to be resurrected or recreated - thus, He gives us a 'new body like until His own' as the Apostle Paul tells us.

Soul means Breath but the life is in the Blood.I believe that at the moment of conception,God has created a new life,an innocent life.A Gift from God.
That's my thought,and I am WAAAY PRO LIFE!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shag

Rava,

Ive wondered myself for SURE at exactly what point we begin to have a spirit or soul(I do believe life begins at conception, so I lean toward at that time). What all do you base that conclusion off of your statement here?

Before a child is born, the Old Testament law stated that if the unborn child was killed by two men fighting and hurting the pregnant woman nearby, the man who was responsible for the child's death must likewise die. Then the bible says eye for an eye, tooth for tooth and life for life. This means the unborn child is considered as much as live as an adult! To compare tooth for tooth is used to illustrate the unborn life is equal to that of an adult in God's eyes.

Exodus 21:22-25 KJV If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. (23) And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, (24) Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, (25) Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

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LIFE in verse 23 is the same Hebrew word for SOUL!!