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Old 03-14-2020, 10:16 AM
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The virus and Be Apostolic??

Many churches are canceling services due to the virus and telling people to stay home if sick. Would the apostles do that?

What happened to Be Apostolic?
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:29 AM
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Re: The virus and Be Apostolic??

Our shadows don’t heal people?
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:32 AM
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Our shadows don’t heal people?


True. but does if any man sick call for elders still apply?
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True. but does if any man sick call for elders still apply?
I thought the same after posting...

Sure should.
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I thought the same after posting...

Sure should.
I know we can't duplicate the apostles, but really, are we that fearful and lacking of faith that we stop our services or tell the sick to stay home?
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I know we can't duplicate the apostles, but really, are we that fearful and lacking of faith that we stop our services or tell the sick to stay home?

What in the world does being Apostolic have to do with using wisdom and complying with an executive order from a state governor about restricting crowd size?

FOR THE RECORD: I am not aware from my vantage point of ANY churches stopping services because of fear or lack of faith in God to cover and heal.

It DOES seem prudent to me to err on the side of caution for congregations that exceed 250 people. And honestly, I have always been of the mind that if someone is sick (hacking cough, sneezing, high fever, etc.) for the sake of everyone around them, STAY HOME!!!

Bro. Raymond Woodward in NB wrote this to the church he pastors…

“Although the government has only made a recommendation at this point, we are choosing to comply because we feel the Church should be part of the solution, not part of the problem. The Bible teaches us to always cooperate with those in authority as long as the government does not infringe on biblical mandates.”

SO… if a church has 35 members, this does not apply to them. But if that house of God with 35 souls feels they ought to side on the side of protecting the people, it just doesn’t seem wrong to me.

What IS distressing is to come here and see us trying to put the household of faith on a balancing scale of who is Apostolic enough. If those who disagree with the pastors would go to some of their brethren and speak to THEM about it, or bother going to their FB pages to read WHY they are doing it, they might come away with a different outlook.

It has been my experience that sometimes we can't see the others person's point of view until the chickens come home to roost...

Personal story... when I was found to have Stage Three uterine and ovarian cancer I has someone close to me say that they would NEVER have chemo! They made me feel as if I didn't trust God and was living in fear of dying...

But then a year or so later it happened to her... it was a totally different story then. I never would ever say anything to her about it, but I will always remember this incident as a picture of how we can't really say what we will do in a situation until we are faced with it.

As a body let's pray for each other...
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What in the world does being Apostolic have to do with using wisdom and complying with an executive order from a state governor about restricting crowd size?

FOR THE RECORD: I am not aware from my vantage point of ANY churches stopping services because of fear or lack of faith in God to cover and heal.

It DOES seem prudent to me to err on the side of caution for congregations that exceed 250 people. And honestly, I have always been of the mind that if someone is sick (hacking cough, sneezing, high fever, etc.) for the sake of everyone around them, STAY HOME!!!

Bro. Raymond Woodward in NB wrote this to the church he pastors…

“Although the government has only made a recommendation at this point, we are choosing to comply because we feel the Church should be part of the solution, not part of the problem. The Bible teaches us to always cooperate with those in authority as long as the government does not infringe on biblical mandates.”

SO… if a church has 35 members, this does not apply to them. But if that house of God with 35 souls feels they ought to side on the side of protecting the people, it just doesn’t seem wrong to me.

What IS distressing is to come here and see us trying to put the household of faith on a balancing scale of who is Apostolic enough. If those who disagree with the pastors would go to some of their brethren and speak to THEM about it, or bother going to their FB pages to read WHY they are doing it, they might come away with a different outlook.

It has been my experience that sometimes we can't see the others person's point of view until the chickens come home to roost...

Personal story... when I was found to have Stage Three uterine and ovarian cancer I has someone close to me say that they would NEVER have chemo! They made me feel as if I didn't trust God and was living in fear of dying...

But then a year or so later it happened to her... it was a totally different story then. I never would ever say anything to her about it, but I will always remember this incident as a picture of how we can't really say what we will do in a situation until we are faced with it.

As a body let's pray for each other...

Should we stop preaching God's protection then?
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What in the world does being Apostolic have to do with using wisdom and complying with an executive order from a state governor about restricting crowd size?

FOR THE RECORD: I am not aware from my vantage point of ANY churches stopping services because of fear or lack of faith in God to cover and heal.

It DOES seem prudent to me to err on the side of caution for congregations that exceed 250 people. And honestly, I have always been of the mind that if someone is sick (hacking cough, sneezing, high fever, etc.) for the sake of everyone around them, STAY HOME!!!

Bro. Raymond Woodward in NB wrote this to the church he pastors…

“Although the government has only made a recommendation at this point, we are choosing to comply because we feel the Church should be part of the solution, not part of the problem. The Bible teaches us to always cooperate with those in authority as long as the government does not infringe on biblical mandates.”

SO… if a church has 35 members, this does not apply to them. But if that house of God with 35 souls feels they ought to side on the side of protecting the people, it just doesn’t seem wrong to me.

What IS distressing is to come here and see us trying to put the household of faith on a balancing scale of who is Apostolic enough. If those who disagree with the pastors would go to some of their brethren and speak to THEM about it, or bother going to their FB pages to read WHY they are doing it, they might come away with a different outlook.

It has been my experience that sometimes we can't see the others person's point of view until the chickens come home to roost...

Personal story... when I was found to have Stage Three uterine and ovarian cancer I has someone close to me say that they would NEVER have chemo! They made me feel as if I didn't trust God and was living in fear of dying...

But then a year or so later it happened to her... it was a totally different story then. I never would ever say anything to her about it, but I will always remember this incident as a picture of how we can't really say what we will do in a situation until we are faced with it.

As a body let's pray for each other...

Should we stop preaching God's protection then?

Back to my question, do you think the apostles would cancel a gathering or tell the sick to stay home?
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Re: The virus and Be Apostolic??

Some of the cities of Brazil have mandatory orders not to have church services...
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Should we stop preaching God's protection then?

Back to my question, do you think the apostles would cancel a gathering or tell the sick to stay home?
To your first question, absolutely not!!! If you have bothered to read any of my posts on this forum you already know that is not what I believe...

But there is wisdom to be had in all things. I don't pray for protection from the Lord and walk out into traffic on the freeway. The Bible doesn't say to drink poison because the Lord will deliver you... it tells us IF we do, God is able.

This is just common sense...

So what would the Apostles do? I don't have a clue, and respectfully, neither do you.

You know, TS, you didn't comment on one thing I posted, just jumped back into a question none of us can answer.

So as I have other things to do today, and as you and I are not going to agree on this, let's leave it at this...

God bless you and your family through this and every part of life. I mean this sincerely, TS... if you pastor, I pray that the people you shepherd stay well and do an amazing work for the Lord. I'm asking the Lord to set a hedge around His people... as He protected so many on 9/11 who should have been in harm’s way, and has kept us all through so many times of sickness, disease and near death experiences, may the hand of the Lord keep us in His tender care!!!

Take care, and please pray for us here… we are walking by faith and not by sight!!!
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