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Old 06-24-2010, 04:28 PM
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THis thread will be hijacked by conspiracy theorists before sundown

Sounded to me like a frustrated general. I think it's a wonderful thing to allow them room to express these frustrations, unfortunately, this general went over the line to this Rolling Stones reporter.

Maybe he wanted out of Afghanistan?
Risking court martial for insubordination?
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Risking court martial for insubordination?
Good point. Although I'm not sure it's all-too-common for a 4-star General to be court martialed over remarks.
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I'm old enough to remember when General Douglas MacArthur was relieved of duty by President Harry Truman on April 11, 1951.

We were fighting a limited war in Korea as part of a United Nations force. The North Koreans had attacked South Korea and took over the whole country. With US help the North Koreans were beaten back all the way to the northern border of North Korea. Then China entered the war and attacked. The UN troops were not allowed to pursue the Chinese over the border into Manchuria. Douglas MacArthur wanted to attack China through Korea and also from Formosa using the army of the the leader of the Nationalist Chinese Chiang Kai-shek. He felt like this would be the end of Communist China. Harry Truman did not agree. I think I remember him saying something like, "Chiang Kai-shek's army couldn't fight their way out of a Chinese whore house" or something like that. Because of public statements by Gen. MacArthur in which he disagreed with his Commander in Chief, he was relieved of duty. In that case there was a difference of opinion on how limited the military action should be. Subsequently, the UN forces were driven back (or retreated) to the 38th parallel and the war ended with the same division of Korea that it began with.

Who knows what the world might be like today if Korea was united under democracy and China was united under democracy of some type.
Exactly why Presidents should stick to public policy and leave strategy to the military. But this is all politics and they wanted a divided Korea and a strong China in the end. Nobody is that stupid
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We lost Korea and Vietnam because of politics not military strategy (entirely).

Iraq probably lost to Iran because Saddam stuck his nose into the military actions
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We lost Korea and Vietnam because of politics not military strategy (entirely).

Iraq probably lost to Iran because Saddam stuck his nose into the military actions
None of these conflicts were fought to win. They were fought for monetary reasons. Follow the money!
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Nobody has caused more division in this country than BO (blame only) This is just the tip of the iceberg, as to how the military feels about this backstabbing israel hating, great britain dispising, miserable excuse of a president.
why not speak a little more clearly of your feelings about him?

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Well of course he did it on purpose. But before we start trying to delve into the reasons, there are some pretty important things to keep in mind.

First Gen. M voted for Obama. He isnt a right wing guy looking to hurt Obama.
Second when he offered his resignation, he did not offer his retirement. Nor did Obama seek to put him out of the Army.

So he has not intent to go on all the talk shows and put Obama down and thus become a hero to the right.

So the question is why did he do it?
I think he wanted out of there, did not want to be the scapegoat for a failure in July 2011 if we just stop where we are then, retreat, and surrender the country to the Taliban.
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It is juuuuuuust about dark. President Bush orchestrated this entire event from his ranch in Texas. He's doing it because General McChrystal recently discovered weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which would seem to be a positive for Bush. However, he also discovered that Bush had gone over and hidden them himself in hopes they would be discovered during the election of 2004. Bush discovered that McChrystal had inappropriately flirted with a military intern and used it as leverage against him to get him to resign to keep him from revealing the truth.

In other breaking news, a birth certificate from Luxembourg for President Obama has been discovered and Obama will be resigning this weekend. Obama has admitted being a KGB agent in his youth.

As soon as I know more, I'll fill everyone in.
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It is juuuuuuust about dark. President Bush orchestrated this entire event from his ranch in Texas. He's doing it because General McChrystal recently discovered weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, which would seem to be a positive for Bush. However, he also discovered that Bush had gone over and hidden them himself in hopes they would be discovered during the election of 2004. Bush discovered that McChrystal had inappropriately flirted with a military intern and used it as leverage against him to get him to resign to keep him from revealing the truth.

In other breaking news, a birth certificate from Luxembourg for President Obama has been discovered and Obama will be resigning this weekend. Obama has admitted being a KGB agent in his youth.

As soon as I know more, I'll fill everyone in.
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