TD Jakes' influence among Oneness Pentecostals

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

This has been educational and I think this thread served its purpose. Ironically, a video on Strict & Particular Baptist Radio is the most viewed on my channel about Tyler Perry as well as Mr Jakes being possible free masons based on their most odd gesture resembling the Ma-Ha-Bone grip of blue lodge free masonry, a theosophic, Gnostic solar-phallic Luciferian sect in its own right. There will have to be an update in the description Jakes is no longer a modalist, or at least has so softened his views as to be rejected by the Oneness camp. I'm simply glad to comprehend he is probably a better representation of the Positive Confession schism than of neo-Sabellianism. It is never my intention to misrepresent a group even if radically differing from its doctrines.

What's a modealist is that someone who builds little ships in bottles?

[Strict Baptist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What's a modealist is that someone who builds little ships in bottles?

Modalism is an interchangeable term for the beliefs of Oneness, as are Sabellian, partialist, Patripassian as Oneness today stands. Modalism was what Praxeus, Nœtus but particularly Sabellius of the fourth to fifth centuries stated his beliefs to be, that the other subsistences are not but modes of the singular divine being. Thus, there is a total denial of hypostasis between the modes. While there is great variance between the ancients and modern modalism, it is still an accurate description of Oneness Pentecostalism's view of the divinity. Perhaps proper use of punctuation and grammar might facilitate an easier answer. There is no such thing as a "modealist."

My question in reply is that if you appear to have a working device with Web access, why not take several moments to find a definition, especially since you criticized me earlier in this thread for my methodology?

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

Jakes was ordained by a so-called Apostolic institution and his church was, at least as recently as 2016, affiliated with the UPCI. Here is why I ask, because I have no context for the UPCI or other Oneness Pentecostal denominations of which I have never been neither would be a part of.

Do you have a link to show the affiliation? It was my understanding Jakes was a COOLJC man, although he had his beginnings with Billy Cole and the UPCI, but that was many years ago.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

I'm not a professional researcher. My pending employment is subject to many confidentiality agreements and thus not up for discussion, ever. Researching unorthodox sects (the term cult is rather inaccurate and unhelpful) is a hobby at which I'm well equipped normally, though not in the case of Oneness; has it occurred to you the Oneness churches here are inaccessible? It is literally almost in another city which would make access without transportation impossible. The closest bus stop makes for a mile walk at least across a busy multi-lane highway with ten seconds on the crosswalk. I'm not one to beg or burden someone unnecessarily, which doubtless is a burden that assembly is bound to be strained in undertaking on a weekly basis to properly collect the needed data. Besides, there is a facet of research for those outside a church setting since programmed behavior is to be expected within the assemblies' meeting hall.

For over a year my wife and I picked up and transported a person from the city of our residence to the UPCI church we at the time attended, and we did so willingly and joyfully, seeking nothing in return.

If you call the UPCI church nearest you and explain you are without transportation but would like to come to a meeting, I am sure someone will oblige to make sure you have a ride.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

Jakes was ordained by a so-called Apostolic institution and his church was, at least as recently as 2016, affiliated with the UPCI. Here is why I ask, because I have no context for the UPCI or other Oneness Pentecostal denominations of which I have never been neither would be a part of.

His church was never affiliated with the UPCI.
He and his church were a part of the Higher Ground...

http://highergroundaaa.com

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

My question in reply is that if you appear to have a working device with Web access, why not take several moments to find a definition, especially since you criticized me earlier in this thread for my methodology?

Wow, that's a really long run on sentence.

Anyway, why would I go on the web to look it up? I have you here. You want us to view you as some sort of theological Colossus, and we petty men. Walk under your huge legs and peep about. To find ourselves dishonorable graves.
It really seems you are here to crush your ecclesiastical enemies. See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of preacher women.

[Praxeas]

behave

[houston]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

Jakes was ordained by a so-called Apostolic institution and his church was, at least as recently as 2016, affiliated with the UPCI. Here is why I ask, because I have no context for the UPCI or other Oneness Pentecostal denominations of which I have never been neither would be a part of.

Don’t know what you’re smoking? Jakes wasn’t affiliated with the UPCI.

[houston]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Do you have a link to show the affiliation? It was my understanding Jakes was a COOLJC man, although he had his beginnings with Billy Cole and the UPCI, but that was many years ago.

That’s not true either.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

Jakes... his church was, at least as recently as 2016, affiliated with the UPCI.

Are you going to have the integrity to either support or retract this claim?

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

It is never my intention to misrepresent a group even if radically differing from its doctrines.

Was that your babble method of saying your claim was wrong?

Steven Avery