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View Poll Results: Is the serpent seed doctrine a "damnable heresy"?
Yes. It's a perverse false doctrine that should be strongly rejected. 59 77.63%
No. Its an doctrinal error, but it's pretty harmless. 10 13.16%
No. I believe the serpent seed doctrine is biblical truth. 4 5.26%
I'm not sure. 3 3.95%
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Old 05-28-2008, 02:57 PM
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Jesus is said to be the seed of David. He cannot be the seed of David if Mary were an incubator.
I would agree if the Bible didn't also trace the lineage of Joseph back to David. THIS is the main reason I believe it as I do. Joseph didn't have anything to do with how Jesus came to be born, right? Then why trace his lineage and tie Jesus to it? Doesn't make any sense.
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What is a surrogate mother........ a woman who had no interaction with the PROVIDER OF THE SEED... she was indeed a surrogate.. she was not the mother in the fact she had anything to do with it...

Jesus said WHO IS MY MOTHER - he understood she was his mother in birth but she was not his MOTHER in authority or position
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Old 05-28-2008, 02:58 PM
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How did Adam and Eve have humanity without parents? How did they obtain DNA?

If they had the same humanity we now have, isn't it possible that Jesus could be just as human without Mary's DNA?

God could have formed Jesus from the dust of the ground and He would have been just as human as we are, yet without parentage. But that wasn't God's plan. Regardless whether Jesus had Mary's DNA or not, He had to go through the trials of being human from birth. That was God's plan.

With God, all things are possible. It was absolutely possible for Jesus to be born of Mary without sharing her DNA, yet still be 100% human.
H1, God could have very well formed Jesus from the same dust he formed Adam from.

but the scripture tells us that Jesus is decended from them. I feel no need to discuss DNA. it isnt required. But Jesus was OF his mother and OF his father.

he was (and here is where Dan and I may depart somewhat) both Man as he was decended from Adam from Mary and he was God as mary concieved of the Holy Ghost.
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The good doctor ignors the clear contridiction between the quote and the SS doctrine
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Such as?
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I think you've missed it ... I think he would say she conceived ...

However the doctrine that both he, Vaughn and Branahm proposed is that God had to provide a blood cell .... and use scripture to support this ...

It ain't possible when dealing w/ the human genome ... and there is no evidence of this ....
I don't believe God provided a blood cell to create Jesus anymore than He used blood cells to create Adam and Eve. God doesn't need substance to create anything.
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That body couldn't be God.. or else you now have TWO GODS,.,, and we know GOD IS A SPIRIT,, not a body
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I don't believe that Mary was just a surrogate. I believe that Jesus inherited His humanity from His mother, biologically speaking.
I would also believe this if the Bible didn't trace the lineage of Joseph from David to Jesus.
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I would agree if the Bible didn't also trace the lineage of Joseph back to David. THIS is the main reason I believe it as I do. Joseph didn't have anything to do with how Jesus came to be born, right? Then why trace his lineage and tie Jesus to it? Doesn't make any sense.
both accounts prove Jesus the son of Adam. which is what was required for Jesus to be THE sacrifice for humanity.
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Re: Is The Serpent Seed Doctine A "Damnable Heresy

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H1, God could have very well formed Jesus from the same dust he formed Adam from.

but the scripture tells us that Jesus is decended from them. I feel no need to discuss DNA. it isnt required. But Jesus was OF his mother and OF his father.

he was (and here is where Dan and I may depart somewhat) both Man as he was decended from Adam from Mary and he was God as mary concieved of the Holy Ghost.
No .... I agree w/ you on this ... I've had this discussion w/ Elder Epley before ...

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...mes#post202081
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I don't believe God provided a blood cell to create Jesus anymore than He used blood cells to create Adam and Eve. God doesn't need substance to create anything.
You cannot create life without creating blood,.,, which begins with a BLOOD CELL
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