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Old 09-24-2013, 08:40 AM
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Everyone I spoke with was a Sunni...who knows.
Nika-al-Mutah appears to be more widely recognized among Shias than Sunnis.

Think Catholic and Protestant.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:58 AM
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Many libertarian minded Americans believe that marriage should be a private contract, unfettered by government regulation or interference. The notion of Nikah-al-Mutah is essentially a religious contract marriage (regardless as to it being verbal or written). I think the concern among Muslims is the possibility of its abuse. Abusing this form of marriage could provide for a form of prostitution. Thus, if a woman didn't fulfill her iddah after such a marriage, she could easily be viewed as being a prostitute.
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<<Nikāḥ al-Mutʿah (Arabic: نكاح المتعة‎, "pleasure marriage") is a fixed-term or short-term marriage in Shia Islam, where the duration and compensation are both agreed upon in advance>>


Probably not essentially different from American style marriage except for how we falsely claim "till death us do part." And that claim can easily-enough toggle over to a three day's marriage, a three month's marriage, or thirty years, whatever. And our agreed upon compensation is what, 50% or more, but the man gets the dog and truck?
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<<Nikāḥ al-Mutʿah (Arabic: نكاح المتعة‎, "pleasure marriage") is a fixed-term or short-term marriage in Shia Islam, where the duration and compensation are both agreed upon in advance>>


Probably not essentially different from American style marriage except for how we falsely claim "till death us do part." And that claim can easily-enough toggle over to a three day's marriage, a three month's marriage, or thirty years, whatever. And our agreed upon compensation is what, 50% or more, but the man gets the dog and truck?
And sometimes not even that. lol
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Old 10-02-2013, 12:14 PM
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Those Muslims who believe in this approach it from a very practical position:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjzRPDop7Sw
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I just discovered that Islam acknowledges "temporary marriages". Here's an article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_mut%E2%80%98ah

What are some of your thoughts on this?
Nikah mutah is a Shia practice, not a Sunni practice.
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Nikah mutah is a Shia practice, not a Sunni practice.
Why do Sunnis have several forms of temporary marriage that they embrace other than Nikah mutah?
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Why do Sunnis have several forms of temporary marriage that they embrace other than Nikah mutah?
Have the folks that have been talking to you about this demonstrated the process or legitimacy of temporary marriages from the Quran?

In Sunni Islam a "temporary" marriage is treated the same as a permanent one and the procedure/process of ending it is outlined in the Quran.
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Have the folks that have been talking to you about this demonstrated the process or legitimacy of temporary marriages from the Quran?

In Sunni Islam a "temporary" marriage is treated the same as a permanent one and the procedure/process of ending it is outlined in the Quran.
I've read a few things on it. Can you share what you know about it?
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I've read a few things on it. Can you share what you know about it?
I first heard the term 'mutah' in Saudi. A friend from work was telling us about his mom and sisters searching for a wife for him and another friend was teasing him about stopping in the town of Qatif for 'mutah' if he felt he needed to get married.

Qatif is a shia town that makes the news from time to time when they have protests.

So I asked what is 'mutah' and my friend said it is 'marriage' for a night or weekend.

I asked my wife about it at the time and she had never heard of it but thought it was funny.

So, the way I was told it works, is that you declare intention between yourselves, gum up a marriage contract, pay mahr to the girl, and enjoy the benefits of marriage for the period of the contract. As far as I can tell its no different from calling an escort out for a weekend.

That's all I know. I've never been interested enough to formally look into it. It's deeply frowned on or made fun of in Saudi Sunni culture and if they do it it is either very rare or they don't talk about it. I never heard a reference to it in the US Muslim community nor did my wife in Indonesia where she grew up, raised in Islamic household, went to Islamic schools, etc.

I did look it up a few weeks ago and read that in Sunni Islam you can marry for a fixed period of time but their interpretation of Islamic law is that you have to follow the standard rules of divorce and end the marriage as it is outlined in the Quran. Stay apart and support your wife for 3 months before you are formally divorced, children are treated the same way that they are for a permanent marriage, and so on. In Shia Islam both parties walk away at the contracted end of the marriage and move on.
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