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Old 05-20-2018, 12:19 AM
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that is what he teaches.
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Brother Irvin Baxter believes that the U.S. is the eagle which carries Israel.
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Brother Irvin Baxter believes that the U.S. is the eagle which carries Israel.
I wonder how many variations of dispensationalism there are among OPs and if there is one dominant version for OPs

If OPs believe that there can be no salvation outside of Acts 2:38, which I hope is the case, there is no need for a 7 year tribulation for Jews.

At least Bro Baxter does not have a 7 year Jewish only trib.
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I wonder how many variations of dispensationalism there are among OPs and if there is one dominant version for OPs

If OPs believe that there can be no salvation outside of Acts 2:38, which I hope is the case, there is no need for a 7 year tribulation for Jews.

At least Bro Baxter does not have a 7 year Jewish only trib.
Perhaps, the 7 year trib for the jews is the period wherein they'll obey Acts 2:38.
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Perhaps, the 7 year trib for the jews is the period wherein they'll obey Acts 2:38.
Why can't they obey it now?
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Why can't they obey it now?
Who said they're not?
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Who said they're not?
Are they? Then why would they need a seven year period?
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Who said they're not?
It actually looks like you are saying they're not.

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Perhaps, the 7 year trib for the jews is the period wherein they'll obey Acts 2:38.
Then why are you making the above statement? If they can obey Acts 2:38 now, then what is the relevance to the trib and Jews? Also explain what is a Jew, and why are the still special to God outside the blood of Christ? Are converts to Judaism also in the same equation? How does one convert to Judaism? Does God honor two religions? Christianity and Rabbinical Judaism?
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I wonder how many variations of dispensationalism there are among OPs and if there is one dominant version for OPs

If OPs believe that there can be no salvation outside of Acts 2:38, which I hope is the case, there is no need for a 7 year tribulation for Jews.

At least Bro Baxter does not have a 7 year Jewish only trib.
Some leaders at ABI used to teach, and maybe still do (???) that the tribulation period is actually 14 years. Some UPCI higher-ups were allegedly called in a year or so after my wife finished up her Associate's. Goes back to an S.G. Norris doctrine, ABI's founder. It was quite controversial when my wife was there.

She wrote a paper refuting it, but the professor told her she had to rewrite it to make it look like she agreed with it "to show she could prove, in writing, that she understood" what has been taught to her.
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Some leaders at ABI used to teach, and maybe still do (???) that the tribulation period is actually 14 years. Some UPCI higher-ups were allegedly called in a year or so after my wife finished up her Associate's. Goes back to an S.G. Norris doctrine, ABI's founder. It was quite controversial when my wife was there.

She wrote a paper refuting it, but the professor told her she had to rewrite it to make it look like she agreed with it "to show she could prove, in writing, that she understood" what has been taught to her.
Baxter believes in a 3.5 year tribulation he says it this way, "time and times and the dividing of time. Daniel 7:25
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