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02-08-2008, 01:50 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
It must be nice to be able to read the hearts and motivations of men you don't even know. 
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02-08-2008, 02:02 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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It must be nice to be able to read the hearts and motivations of men you don't even know. |
It's actually an art!!! 
I've been around HQ for some time now, which is why I have commented the way I have...
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02-08-2008, 02:03 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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It's actually an art!!!
I've been around HQ for some time now, which is why I have commented the way I have... |
Hanging around HQ makes you privy to the opinions of officials about men; it doesn't make you any more able to read the hearts of men.
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02-08-2008, 02:10 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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Hanging around HQ makes you privy to the opinions of officials about men; it doesn't make you any more able to read the hearts of men.
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Sometimes the officials who have had to deal with the men get to know their hearts pretty well by their behavior.
That is not to say they would share that opinion with anyone just hanging around.
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02-08-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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Hanging around HQ makes you privy to the opinions of officials about men; it doesn't make you any more able to read the hearts of men.
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Ummm, ok?!?!?
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02-08-2008, 09:32 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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I agree 100%; however, this is my first huge transition that has affected the UPCI. I wasn't in church when ALJC or PAW separated, or even alive for that matter.
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What do you mean by PAW seperated?
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02-09-2008, 01:41 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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What do you mean by PAW seperated?
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When the ALJC was created...when the PAW was created.
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“If you happen to meet a crocodile, don't stick your head in its mouth. Every now and then, and who knows the reason, people ignore this advice, which is sad because they die, but very stupid because they were warned. They had a choice. The moral of the story is this — you can't afford to be stupid. There are crocodiles.”
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02-09-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
PAW was founded in 1913. After Azusa died down, the races all went their own way.
the upc was formed in 1945
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02-10-2008, 04:06 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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When the ALJC was created...when the PAW was created.
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PAW was the first oneness org that was made of both wihte and black. Many Whtes had issues with it due to eventual mixed marriages and later went on to part of the forming of the UPC. White elders didn't want their licenses signed by black bishops.
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02-10-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: 1> Did the Tulsa 6 have a right to start WPF ?
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
PAW was the first oneness org that was made of both wihte and black. Many Whtes had issues with it due to eventual mixed marriages and later went on to part of the forming of the UPC. White elders didn't want their licenses signed by black bishops.
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The only real documented problems involved the scheduling of conferences in the South. The old Jim Crow laws prohibited black ministers from staying at "whites only" hotels.
There were no doubt other issues on the minds of different individuals, but the real pressure to seperate along color lines really came from outside of the Pentecostal movement. When they did seperate, it was generally seen as a victory for "outside" forces and was a disappointment to those within the movement.
Most of the "anti-inter-racial marriage" sentiments came along later; about the same time that other new ideas were being introduced.
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