Question for UPC ministers concerning the "New Church Order"

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Thumper

Care to name the new heresy you are refering to.

Thank you.

I wonder how he even knows who my "merry band of brothers" is?

I don't think we are acquainted.

[Thumper]

Originally Posted by Amos

Thank you.

I wonder how he even knows who my "merry band of brothers" is?

I don't think we are acquainted.

From William Shakespeare's "Henry V"

King: ...From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

I don't know or even care much about some NWO but what AWCF I've seen basically amounts to a comedy show. Nobody really believes what the other believes but few care because what you believe doesn't matter anymore.

Serpent seed - false doctrine.
Divine flesh - false doctine.
Some believe trinity - false doctrine.
Some were caught in adultery - dumb.
Some preach prosperity doctrines - dumb.

And the list goes on.

In some other Apostoic circles some are as guilty ....

the following prevails:

Salvational Holiness Dress Standards - false doctrine
Magic Hair - false doctrine
Baptismal Regeneration - false doctrine
Tongues or Hell - false doctrine
Pastoral abuse - dumb and unethical
Some never formally charged w/ immoral sin- dumb and unethical
Some preach prosperity doctrine - dumb
Some preach Word of faith "blab it and grab it" - dumb
Some believe heritage/ "man-made" traditions over the Word - dumb

Originally Posted by Thumper

Care to name the new heresy you are refering to.

How many should I list?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by johnmark93

How many should I list?

Salvific tithing?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Salvific tithing?

You put that in the same boat as docetism?

Originally Posted by Amos

Thank you.

I wonder how he even knows who my "merry band of brothers" is?

I don't think we are acquainted.

From my limited observation, you seem to communicate in agreement with a certain segment of writers on this forum. Those writers promote things that fly in the face of the doctrinal premises found in the Pauline epistles. The end result is a works based religion.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by johnmark93

From my limited observation, you seem to communicate in agreement with a certain segment of writers on this forum. Those writers promote things that fly in the face of the doctrinal premises found in the Pauline epistles. The end result is a works based religion.

but ... but ...but

FAITH W/O WORKS IS DEAD!!!

[Thumper]

LOL just what I thought. Carry on JM

[Amos]

Originally Posted by johnmark93

From my limited observation, you seem to communicate in agreement with a certain segment of writers on this forum. Those writers promote things that fly in the face of the doctrinal premises found in the Pauline epistles. The end result is a works based religion.

I am flattered to have been the object of such close scrutiny and analysis.