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Old 07-18-2018, 10:33 AM
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Re: The UPC is a dying movement!

It is important to note that a dead church organization need not be losing members or be collapsing. The deadest Christian organization on earth is the Catholic church... and they are a rather successful organization that has many established members and are adding new ones every day.

A movement is dead when it departs from biblical truth to teach for doctrine the traditions of men.

But does that describe the UPCI? At this point in time, there is some debate on that.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:10 AM
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But does that describe the UPCI? At this point in time, there is some debate on that.
The only debate on that is between your multifaceted selfs.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:27 AM
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I have heard this for over 50 years. Never been a member and never had a desire to. But this is absurd.
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:07 PM
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Selves. Selves.
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:12 PM
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Selves. Selves.
I know. I had "selves" but changed it because, in the context, didn't think it fit as well.

Thanks, grammar Nazi.
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:23 PM
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I know. I had "selves" but changed it because, in the context, didn't think it fit as well.

Thanks, grammar Nazi.
That’s what I figured you were doing.
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:43 PM
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The only debate on that is between your multifaceted selfs.
I think if you searched it out, you'll find many who think the UPCI is spiritually dead.

I don't think so. I know some very spiritually alive individuals in the UPCI. However, I do believe it is seriously struggling with the traditions of men being taught as doctrines at this point in time and excessive legislation that falls short of trusting the Holy Spirit.

Revival will come when the church is under such pressure it has no time to waste arguing over stupid things like beards and men wearing shorts.

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Old 07-18-2018, 02:58 PM
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Revival will come when the church is under such pressure it has no time to waste arguing over stupid things like beards and men wearing shorts.
Yes, I'm sure that is what revival is waiting for....

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Old 07-18-2018, 03:00 PM
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Yes, I'm sure that is what revival is waiting for....

likely attending church and praying through would help revival also
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I have heard this for over 50 years. Never been a member and never had a desire to. But this is absurd.
Thank you!!!
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