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11-16-2017, 09:45 AM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
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Originally Posted by Esaias
I think there's a difference between a person saying "I don't know, I haven't studied it" or "I've been studying but I'm not yet convinced one way or the other" on the one hand, and someone saying "Who cares? What difference does it make?" on the other hand.
The first case is understandable. The second seems inexcusably lazy and morally relativistic. In my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Seems to me a lot of folks just want to know what they gotta have lined out in order to get to heaven. If something comes their way their default response seems to be "Do I have to have/do/believe this to go to heaven? Can I blow it off or reject it safely, or will I be lost?"
Seems like a lot of folks just really aren't interested in finding and knowing truth. They'd just rather meet the minimum requirements and get on with their lives.
Kind of sad, actually.
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What's sad are those who add to the Bible and include things which aren't salvific as though they are. They d amn and condemn good and righteous men and women as heretics simply because they believe something different than them.
Bro. T F Tenney wrote a book and uses the phrase, "the main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing."
It's not about moral relativism, it's not about being lazy and doing the minimum - what a joke those accusations are. We don't earn salvation, thus there's no "minimum" as you derisively claim.
It's about recognizing the important issues and not getting tangled up in things which aren't. I'm not going to get all huffy and puffy and bitter with anyone over when I believe the end will happen. I believe it will happen. That's what matters. Judgment will come. Christ will return. It will happen. That's the part which matters.
A heretic would be the one who claims it won't happen.
Arguing over the when does not matter.
Your claim of people being heretics over pre, mid beliefs is as dumb as those who preach a man will split hell open and are damned for wearing a short-sleeved or colored shirt.
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11-16-2017, 10:08 AM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
What if the book of Revelation is so dynamic it speaks to the fall of Jerusalem, Christian history, and the future apocalypse... all at the same time? What if in some way, there is truth to every position?
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11-16-2017, 10:20 AM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
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Originally Posted by Aquila
What if the book of Revelation is so dynamic it speaks to the fall of Jerusalem, Christian history, and the future apocalypse... all at the same time? What if in some way, there is truth to every position?
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that would be historicism
Preterism and Futurism by definition exclude each other.
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11-16-2017, 11:25 AM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
His NAME is Jesus!
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Originally Posted by Sean
Funny, the post tribbers completely de-legitimize the words of Jesus, when speaking
of catching folks unaware....
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Beloved, EVERYONE will be caught unaware: even those who are ready. But
there are those of us who will SEE (recognize, perceive, discern) the apostasy
(shaking, falling away) and the appearance of the man of sin and because we
understand how the Lord makes a difference between those who are REALLY
his and those who are not, we will not be caught unprepared.
Brother Villa
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11-16-2017, 11:37 AM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
His NAME is Jesus!
Beloved, EVERYONE will be caught unaware: even those who are ready. But
there are those of us who will SEE (recognize, perceive, discern) the apostasy
(shaking, falling away) and the appearance of the man of sin and because we
understand how the Lord makes a difference between those who are REALLY
his and those who are not, we will not be caught unprepared.
Brother Villa
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Brother Villa, what are you thoughts on the Apostasy and man of sin?
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11-16-2017, 12:00 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
His NAME is Jesus!
Beloved, EVERYONE will be caught unaware: even those who are ready. But
there are those of us who will SEE (recognize, perceive, discern) the apostasy
(shaking, falling away) and the appearance of the man of sin and because we
understand how the Lord makes a difference between those who are REALLY
his and those who are not, we will not be caught unprepared.
Brother Villa
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No, we will be taken out of the way before the man of sin is revealed, by the Holy Ghost.
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11-16-2017, 12:01 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
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Originally Posted by Aquila
What if the book of Revelation is so dynamic it speaks to the fall of Jerusalem, Christian history, and the future apocalypse... all at the same time? What if in some way, there is truth to every position?
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It only speaks of current and future events, from 96ad forward.
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11-16-2017, 12:05 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
His NAME is Jesus!
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Originally Posted by Amanah
Brother Villa, what are you thoughts on the Apostasy and man of sin?
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BELOVED, YOU HAVE JUST FINISHED READING THEM.
Brother Villa
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11-16-2017, 12:05 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Even when you put Sean on ignore, the page is cluttered with the nonsensical manner of posting short posts that look like this when ignored...
You cannot see anyone else's post this morning on this page due to that tripe.
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The posts are more than 99 percent scripture. Are they nonsense to you also?
I merely agree with them as I compare them, but you love Esaias' cartoons.
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11-16-2017, 12:08 PM
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Re: Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy
His NAME is Jesus!
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Originally Posted by Sean
It only speaks of current and future events, from 96ad forward.
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Beloved, in essence you are saying that nothing more has been fulfilled since
the year 96 AD!
Brother Villa
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