Is The Serpent Seed Doctrine A "Damnable Heresy"?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by James Griffin

Dan, you and Pel are having too much fun.

It's like Christmas in May.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

She concieved. She must have recieved something from God right? How could she concieve if God did not deposit something in her.

The modern clinical term is parthenogenisis. It actually happens all the time, but has never been observed in mammals, thus its "miraculous" nature if it ever did occur.

The haploid cell of the female (the egg with its 23 chromosomes) differentiates and develops normally into a full term offspring of the mother.

As the wordsmiths might have noticed: "partheno" is Greek for "virgin." Thus, parthenogenesis = literally "born of a virgin." Though technically it can and does occur in females that have also already given birth through the standard sexual means.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The modern clinical term is parthenogenisis. It actually happens all the time, but has never been observed in mammals, thus its "miraculous" nature if it ever did occur.

The haploid cell of the female (the egg with its 23 chromosomes) differentiates and develops normally into a full term offspring of the mother.

So it's not a blood cell?

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The illogic goes something like this ...

Life is in the blood.
Man sinned hence his blood is dirty with sin.
Mary conceives a baby from a God created perfect human blood cell.
This blood cell is perfect and sinless.
Jesus hence is perfect and sinless.
We are redeemed when he sheds this blood.]


I think the Branahmites would take it further ... stating that human blood deriving from Eve's lineage has the Devil's DNA .

I seriously doubt anyone is ever going to be able to explain exactly how it is that God overshadowed Mary and impregnated her. Trying to explain this would be like trying to explain how God did and does any of the things He did and does. How did He speak the world into existence? How did He create man out of dust? These are all questions we're not going to know the answers to and are going to fail miserably at explaining.

[Rico]

You're all wasting your time trying to explain this. Supernatural things can not be explained using natural logic.

[Bro-Larry]

Jesus was conceived by the word of God which was delivered to Mary by Gabriel. Lk 1:28-35 The word became flesh . Jn 1:14 There was no blood cell. God word has life in it. That is the same word that created Adam's blood in creation. God can make life. The devil cannot.

God's word is both Spirit and life.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Rico

I seriously doubt anyone is ever going to be able to explain exactly how it is that God overshadowed Mary and impregnated her. Trying to explain this would be like trying to explain how God did and does any of the things He did and does. How did He speak the world into existence? How did He create man out of dust? These are all questions we're not going to know the answers to and are going to fail miserably at explaining.

You are right we accept the virgin birth thru faith ... it was supernatural.

I try not to explain it ... my faith can stretch to realize that I don't need to have to explain everything ...

It means I dont have create doctrines to fit my paradigm ... especially if have no direct connection to the Word or even to logic.

[TRFrance]

I guess maybe I'd jump into the whole "blood" discussion if I thought it was in any way relevant.

But anyway... carry on, fellas.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Jesus was conceived by the word of God which was delivered to Mary by Gabriel. Lk 1:28-35 The word became flesh . Jn 1:14

No ... IT WAS A BLOOD CELL!!!!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

So it's not a blood cell?

No, "its" a haploid cell. A very specific kind of cell which is produced in the ehrm... gonads of... ahh... sexually mature creatures. <cough!>

Each haploid cell has just 23 chromosomes instead of the standard 46 chromosomes which are present in all of the other cells, including blood cells.