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Old 02-20-2008, 03:33 PM
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I think the soundmen are the real music devils.
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:35 PM
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Music devils. More devils behind the pulpit than behind the piano. (sarcasm)
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:42 PM
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I have shared this with many ministry friends and always enjoy the chuckle shared when somebody else realizes they are not the only ones who struggle with such things. This is also posted currently on Full Proof Team Blog. Read more... www.rkentsmith.blogspot.com
Maybe musicians just need a Healer......
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:48 PM
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HOW BOUT WE CHANGE SOME WORDS IN YOUR DIATRIBE RKENTSMITH...do you still find it amusing???
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I ponder this title....

And ask myself....

What is a Ministry Devil?

Everybody knows that Lucifer got kicked out of Heaven and landed behind the pulpit of the local United Pentecostal Church....

Or maybe in the pastors office....

Seems like if the devil shows up anywhere it will be somewhere in the ministy folks...

I call these things...

Preacher Devils...

However a Preacer Devil is not a person....

It is an attitude....

Those that are the artsy theological types many times possess a moody temperamental side that is difficult for the rest of us to deal with.

And since the intelectual types has talent that helps him into spiritual arenas without having to pursue the Almighty...

Or pray....

Many times their carnal side becomes prevalent....

Also, since we that are not preachers are dependent upon those that are.....

Many times we find ourselves bending rules to accommodate the mood swings of those inclined to preach....

We fail the preacher type by giving in to their moods....

When we do so, the mood of the preacher type learns that he now has power to flaunt and get its way it....

So the next time the mood appears.....

It appears in the form of a Ministry Devil....

Another way a Ministry Devil manifest itself is the fits and temper tantrums it seems to enjoy having while at Sunday night service......

Or even in a church service when something does not go its way.....

And then whammo.....

The Preacher Devil appears....

Have you ever seen the faces a Ministry Devil can make at a good saint....

Or have you seen the hand gestures that go back and forth...

Persons who struggle with the Preacher Devil Syndrome are quick to pout and threaten to leave the church......

Or purposely drag the service late droning on for hours....

Many times "dressed to the nines" so as to make a statement.....

The statement is....

You can't make it without me....

But the Ministry Devil is so mistaken.......

There is always a replacement....

Usually much better than he himself is.....

Preacher Devils are about a dime a dozen.....

They show up in a board meeting, not wanting to comply with the big picture of church programming....

Preacher Devils show up screaming sermons that make more racket than any single church can contain....

Preacher
Devils show up in sound system wanting the amp so loud....

And want to get more monitor right in the middle of prayer request....

Preacher Devils show up and never are satisfied with Keyboardist. They buy sermons from JustpreachIt.com, bought and paid for with the offerings of the pitiful masses that he must condescend to serve.....

Ministry Devils show up in preachers who do not want to pray or work, but sure want a microphone....



YOU GET THE IDEA NOW ??? I’ll quit changing your words here Kent

Music Devils show up in praise teams ......

Music Devils never seem to want to do anything but be musical....

Never would one consider doing anything else in the church but music.....

Swab a toilet.....NO

Pick up a visitor.....NO

Show up at family prayer......maybe yes....maybe no.....

But throw a fit if something or someone crosses their whim in any way....YES

I've dealt with many Music Devils over the years....

Ironically, the musical person who struggles with a Music Devil is most times a most wonderful person....

He just has the glaring weakness of a Music Devil....

How many Music Devils have you seen fill out a tithe envelope?

Have you ever seen the musician who struggles with a Music Devil stroll into church late and then have the gall to meander up to the stage and assume their rightful position of power at the keyboard or organ?

The same cat has disdained to pray and now he and his Music Devil have the audicity to think that the anointing of the Holy Ghost is going to flow through them....

I don't think so.....

It ought not be done so in Israel......

Do you know anyone who struggles with a Music Devil?

Have you ever seen a Music Devil at your church?

Do you have a Music Devil?

If this makes you mad.....

I bet you do you have inside of you one of them.....

Music Devils.....
Funny....

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Old 02-20-2008, 04:03 PM
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Re: Music Devils

You people crack me up....

This piece was not about personalities....

Rather about folks who choose to set aside submission to God for their personal agenda...

I think the reword thing was hilarious....

Whatever happened to submission to God?

Whatever happened to doing it as unto the Lord?

Some of you folks have way lost sight of Godly submission.

This saddens me....

Just as a preacher with sin in his life will transfer that same sin into his church....

What kind of unsubmitted spirits are transferred by music folks who have ceased to submit to the Lord and have given themselves up to another spirit.....
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:06 PM
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You people crack me up....

This piece was not about personalities....

Rather about folks who choose to set aside submission to God for their personal agenda...

I think the reword thing was hilarious....

Whatever happened to submission to God?

Whatever happened to doing it as unto the Lord?

Some of you folks have way lost sight of Godly submission.

This saddens me....

Just as a preacher with sin in his life will transfer that same sin into his church....

What kind of unsubmitted spirits are transferred by music folks who have ceased to submit to the Lord and have given themselves up to another spirit.....

Then why not remove the "musician" label, and say "anyone" who ceases to submit?

You started the thread about musicians, and someone astutely pointed out that this same spirit exists even in the ministry, and you cry foul?

I could say this about engineers, doctors, lawyers, etc. It's an age old problem.

Some of the most talented people are the most high maintenance - it's not a new thing, my friend, it's human nature.
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You people crack me up....

This piece was not about personalities....

Rather about folks who choose to set aside submission to God for their personal agenda...
It's not quite that simple. You singled a specific type of person. That makes is less about a generic principle (above), and more about bashing a type of person. (see the blog you posted)

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Some of you folks have way lost sight of Godly submission.

This saddens me....

Just as a preacher with sin in his life will transfer that same sin into his church....

What kind of unsubmitted spirits are transferred by music folks who have ceased to submit to the Lord and have given themselves up to another spirit.....
See what I mean? "Some of you folks"? You are talking to everyone, including me.

Why would objections to your blog cause you to think we have "unsubmitted spirits?" I submit to God, my husband, my pastor, my mother, and other elders and civil authorities. However, you aren't in the list of folks in charge of me, so objecting to something you say that is way off in left field has nothing at all to do with having an "unsubmitted spirit."

I have already spent time with God today submitting my carnal spirit to Him. It's a great feeling. You should give it a shot.
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Old 02-20-2008, 04:11 PM
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Folks....take a break! I think many have way OVERREACTED! People, I am a musician, Choir Leader, Keyboardist, Preacher, Pastor.....

I didn't get offended. I can admit, being in the music ministry that many of these things are true. No, not all the time, but they do exist!

Thou dost protest tooooo much! :ra zz
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