Islam vs. Christianity Part 1

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

http://www.knightscrusaders.com/Knig..._The_Myth.html

It's OK Dordrecht. After Islam "takes over America" we know that you will be OK because the Dutch will cooperate with anyone LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandsche_SS

[Dordrecht]

Childish response,
I can tell you are not nearly
as smart as your brother the surgeon.

Let me tell you why people like you
will not believe the truth and accept
a lie.

It is because they do not know
the Word of God. And this is the
cause of ALL false doctrine, the cause of
ALL error, and actually the cause
of the LOSS of every soul.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Childish response,
I can tell you are not nearly
as smart as your brother the surgeon.

Let me tell you why people like you
will not believe the truth and accept
a lie.

It is because they do not know
the Word of God. And this is the
cause of ALL false doctrine, the cause of
ALL error, and actually the cause
of the LOSS of every soul.

Ahh but you're very, very wrong.

I have heard enough false doctrine across pulpits for a lifetime and what you call the "word of god" are the words of those who neither knew god nor ever walked with him. It is a fact after all that nobody actually knows who wrote the words you claim are of god yet are rife with descrepency (meaning this: they came from somewhere true but as they are rife with this the one place they cannot have come from is god)

Your fear of Islam demonstrates that you know deep inside that nothing you have or live is of god. Otherwise, why not simply spread your message of "hope and peace" and trust your "god" to take care of everything else for you?

"peace on earth and goodwill to men" indeed. More like 2000 years of blood-soaked building blocks of history LOL

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Ahh but you're very, very wrong.

I have heard enough false doctrine across pulpits for a lifetime and what you call the "word of god" are the words of those who neither knew god nor ever walked with him. It is a fact after all that nobody actually knows who wrote the words you claim are of god yet are rife with descrepency (meaning this: they came from somewhere true but as they are rife with this the one place they cannot have come from is god)

Your fear of Islam demonstrates that you know deep inside that nothing you have or live is of god. Otherwise, why not simply spread your message of "hope and peace" and trust your "god" to take care of everything else for you?

"peace on earth and goodwill to men" indeed. More like 2000 years of blood-soaked building blocks of history LOL

Yet you're not addressing the fact, the killing of muslim men, women and children by other muslims.

Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth. Keep a check on the news and you'll see story after story about the violent Islamic RELIGION.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Yet you're not addressing the fact, the killing of muslim men, women and children by other muslims.

Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth. Keep a check on the news and you'll see story after story about the violent Islamic RELIGION.

Actually I wasn't talking to you. Yes Muslims are murdered by other Muslims. If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I SUPPORT this.......??

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Actually I wasn't talking to you. Yes Muslims are murdered by other Muslims. If you are implying in any way, shape or form that I SUPPORT this.......??

I'm not implying anything, I'm specifically saying that we see over and over that Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth today.

[Walks_in_islam]

Who's this WE that you speak of? Wait! I found the "WE"!

The Gunpowder Plot was a failed attempt to blow up the Palace of Westminster, the English seat of government

The Orange Volunteers are a group infamous for carrying out simultaneous terrorist attacks on Catholic churches

Self-styled pastors Clifford Peeples, previously convicted under the Prevention of Terrorism Act, John Somerville, and their associates, were dubbed by RUC chief constable, Ronnie Flanagan "the demon pastors" – specialising in recounting lurid stories of Catholic savagery towards Protestants, and in finding biblical justifications for Protestant retaliation.

The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India, has been described as engaging in terrorist violence motivated by their Christian beliefs. It is classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, and has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity

The insurgency in Nagaland was originally led by the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (NSCN), and it is continued today by a faction named "NSCN–Isaac Muivah", which explicitly calls for a "Nagalim for Christ

The state government reports that the Baptist Church of Tripura supplies arms and gives financial support to the NLFT. In April 2000, the secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, Nagmanlal Halam, was arrested with a large quantity of explosives. He confessed to illegally buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for two years. The NLFT has threatened to kill Hindus celebrating the annual five-day religious festival of Durga Puja and other religious celebrations. At least 20 Hindus in Tripura have been killed by the NLFT in two years for resisting forced conversion to Christianity. A leader of the Jamatia tribe, Rampada Jamatia, said that armed NLFT militants were forcibly converting tribal villagers to Christianity, which he said was a serious threat to Hinduism. It is believed that as many as 5,000 tribal villagers were converted over two years. These forcible conversions to Christianity, sometimes including the use of "rape as a means of intimidation," have also been noted by academics outside of India

In Assam in 2009, the Manmasi National Christian Army (MNCA), an extremist group from the Hmar tribe, were charged with forcing Hindus to convert at gunpoint. Seven or more Hmar youths were charged with visiting Bhuvan Pahar, a Hindu village, armed with guns, and pressuring residents to convert to Christianity. They also desecrated temples by painting crosses on the walls with their blood

In 2007 a tribal spiritual Hindu monk, Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati, accused Radhakant Nayak, chief of a local chapter of World Vision, and a former Rajya Sabha member from Odisha in the Indian National Congress party, of plotting to assassinate him. The Swami also said that World Vision was covertly pumping money into India for religious conversion during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami, and criticized the activities of Christian missionaries as going against tribal beliefs. In 2008, he was gunned down along with four disciples on the Hindu festive day of Krishna Janmashtami by a group of 30–40 armed men. Later, Maoist terrorist leader Sabyasachi Panda admitted responsibility for the assassination, saying that the Maoists had intervened in the religious dispute on behalf of Christians and Dalits. The non-governmental organization Justice on Trial disputed that there had been Maoist involvement, and quoted the Swami as claiming that Christian missionaries had earlier attacked him eight times

In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island. As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader

The Lord's Resistance Army, a cult guerrilla army engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government, has been accused of using child soldiers and committing numerous crimes against humanity; including massacres, abductions, mutilation, torture, rape, and forced child labour as soldiers, porters, and sex slaves. A quasi-religious movement that mixes some aspects of Christian beliefs with its own brand of spiritualism, it is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the "Holy Spirit" which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations. LRA fighters wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible before battle

Beginning after the Civil War, members of the Protestant-led Ku Klux Klan organization began engaging in arson, beatings, cross burning, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, and whipping against African Americans, Jews, Catholics, and other social or ethnic minorities.
They were explicitly Christian terrorist in ideology, basing their beliefs on a "religious foundation" in Christianity. The goals of the KKK included, from an early time on, an intent to "reestablish Protestant Christian values in America by any means possible," and believe that "Jesus was the first Klansman." Their cross-burnings were conducted not only to intimidate targets, but to demonstrate their respect and reverence for Jesus Christ, and the lighting ritual was steeped in Christian symbolism, including the saying of prayers and singing of Christian hymns. Many modern Klan organizations, such as the Knights Party, USA, continue to focus on the Christian supremacist message, asserting that there is a "war" on to destroy "western Christian civilization."

During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. A number of terrorist attacks were attributed to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ. A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."

The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub, were made by Eric Robert Rudolph; Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to fit the definition of a Christian terrorist

Fourteen traditionalist shamans about to form a shamanic school and association were murdered in Peru over a period of several months prior to October 2011. The murders were committed by, and/or at the behest of, the local mayor and a group of other evangelical Christians. The mayor's brother was known in the area as a matabrujos or witch killer

Originally Posted by seekerman

I'm not implying anything, I'm specifically saying that we see over and over that Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth today.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Who's this WE that you speak of? Wait! I found the "WE"!

The Gunpowder Plot was a failed attempt to blow up the Palace of Westminster, the English seat of government

The Orange Volunteers are a group infamous for carrying out simultaneous terrorist attacks on Catholic churches

Self-styled pastors Clifford Peeples, previously convicted under the Prevention of Terrorism Act, John Somerville, and their associates, were dubbed by RUC chief constable, Ronnie Flanagan "the demon pastors" – specialising in recounting lurid stories of Catholic savagery towards Protestants, and in finding biblical justifications for Protestant retaliation.

The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India, has been described as engaging in terrorist violence motivated by their Christian beliefs. It is classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, and has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity

The insurgency in Nagaland was originally led by the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (NSCN), and it is continued today by a faction named "NSCN–Isaac Muivah", which explicitly calls for a "Nagalim for Christ

The state government reports that the Baptist Church of Tripura supplies arms and gives financial support to the NLFT. In April 2000, the secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, Nagmanlal Halam, was arrested with a large quantity of explosives. He confessed to illegally buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT for two years. The NLFT has threatened to kill Hindus celebrating the annual five-day religious festival of Durga Puja and other religious celebrations. At least 20 Hindus in Tripura have been killed by the NLFT in two years for resisting forced conversion to Christianity. A leader of the Jamatia tribe, Rampada Jamatia, said that armed NLFT militants were forcibly converting tribal villagers to Christianity, which he said was a serious threat to Hinduism. It is believed that as many as 5,000 tribal villagers were converted over two years. These forcible conversions to Christianity, sometimes including the use of "rape as a means of intimidation," have also been noted by academics outside of India

In Assam in 2009, the Manmasi National Christian Army (MNCA), an extremist group from the Hmar tribe, were charged with forcing Hindus to convert at gunpoint. Seven or more Hmar youths were charged with visiting Bhuvan Pahar, a Hindu village, armed with guns, and pressuring residents to convert to Christianity. They also desecrated temples by painting crosses on the walls with their blood

In 2007 a tribal spiritual Hindu monk, Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati, accused Radhakant Nayak, chief of a local chapter of World Vision, and a former Rajya Sabha member from Odisha in the Indian National Congress party, of plotting to assassinate him. The Swami also said that World Vision was covertly pumping money into India for religious conversion during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami, and criticized the activities of Christian missionaries as going against tribal beliefs. In 2008, he was gunned down along with four disciples on the Hindu festive day of Krishna Janmashtami by a group of 30–40 armed men. Later, Maoist terrorist leader Sabyasachi Panda admitted responsibility for the assassination, saying that the Maoists had intervened in the religious dispute on behalf of Christians and Dalits. The non-governmental organization Justice on Trial disputed that there had been Maoist involvement, and quoted the Swami as claiming that Christian missionaries had earlier attacked him eight times

In July 2011, Anders Behring Breivik was arrested and charged with terrorism after a car bombing in Oslo and a mass shooting on Utøya island. As a result of his attacks, 151 people were injured, and 77 killed. Hours prior to the events, Breivik released a 1,500 page manifesto detailing that immigrants were undermining Norway's traditional Christian values, and identifying himself as a "Christian crusader

The Lord's Resistance Army, a cult guerrilla army engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government, has been accused of using child soldiers and committing numerous crimes against humanity; including massacres, abductions, mutilation, torture, rape, and forced child labour as soldiers, porters, and sex slaves. A quasi-religious movement that mixes some aspects of Christian beliefs with its own brand of spiritualism, it is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the "Holy Spirit" which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations. LRA fighters wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible before battle

Beginning after the Civil War, members of the Protestant-led Ku Klux Klan organization began engaging in arson, beatings, cross burning, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, and whipping against African Americans, Jews, Catholics, and other social or ethnic minorities.
They were explicitly Christian terrorist in ideology, basing their beliefs on a "religious foundation" in Christianity. The goals of the KKK included, from an early time on, an intent to "reestablish Protestant Christian values in America by any means possible," and believe that "Jesus was the first Klansman." Their cross-burnings were conducted not only to intimidate targets, but to demonstrate their respect and reverence for Jesus Christ, and the lighting ritual was steeped in Christian symbolism, including the saying of prayers and singing of Christian hymns. Many modern Klan organizations, such as the Knights Party, USA, continue to focus on the Christian supremacist message, asserting that there is a "war" on to destroy "western Christian civilization."

During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. A number of terrorist attacks were attributed to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ. A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."

The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.

The Centennial Olympic Park bombing in 1996, as well as subsequent attacks on an abortion clinic and a lesbian nightclub, were made by Eric Robert Rudolph; Michael Barkun, a professor at Syracuse University, considers Rudolph to fit the definition of a Christian terrorist

Fourteen traditionalist shamans about to form a shamanic school and association were murdered in Peru over a period of several months prior to October 2011. The murders were committed by, and/or at the behest of, the local mayor and a group of other evangelical Christians. The mayor's brother was known in the area as a matabrujos or witch killer

When RELIGIOUS violence is reported, usually every week or sometimes more than once a week, it's almost always the violence of the RELIGION of Islam. If muslims aren't killing other muslim men, women and children, they're killing others in their RELIGIOUS violence.

You're not addressing the facts, islam. I thank you for your responses for it shows the mindset of the muslim and the constant denial of the truth of the violence of Islam. In other words, your RELIGION is exposed and the typical muslim will not face the fact that Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth. We'll see many examples of that in 2013.

[Walks_in_islam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

When RELIGIOUS violence is reported, usually every week or sometimes more than once a week, it's almost always the violence of the RELIGION of Islam. If muslims aren't killing other muslim men, women and children, they're killing others in their RELIGIOUS violence.

You're not addressing the facts, islam. I thank you for your responses for it shows the mindset of the muslim and the constant denial of the truth of the violence of Islam. In other words, your RELIGION is exposed and the typical muslim will not face the fact that Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth. We'll see many examples of that in 2013.

We probably will if we believe that painting crosses and swastikas on Muslim places of worship is acceptable christian behaviour.

According to an AFP report citing security sources, the clashes, which saw the use of firearms, flared on Friday night in Al-Khusus, a poor area in Qalyubia governorate, after a Muslim in his 50s objected to children drawing a swastika on a religious institute.

The man allegedly insulted Christians and the cross, and an argument broke out with a young Christian man who was passing by, which escalated into a gun battle with live rounds and automatic weapons between the Muslims and the Christians.

As many as seven people may have been killed, said Tony Sabri, an activist from the Coptic Maspero Youth Movement, told AFP by phone from the al-Mataraya Hospital, near to where the clashes took place.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

We probably will if we believe that painting crosses and swastikas on Muslim places of worship is acceptable christian behaviour.

According to an AFP report citing security sources, the clashes, which saw the use of firearms, flared on Friday night in Al-Khusus, a poor area in Qalyubia governorate, after a Muslim in his 50s objected to children drawing a swastika on a religious institute.

The man allegedly insulted Christians and the cross, and an argument broke out with a young Christian man who was passing by, which escalated into a gun battle with live rounds and automatic weapons between the Muslims and the Christians.

As many as seven people may have been killed, said Tony Sabri, an activist from the Coptic Maspero Youth Movement, told AFP by phone from the al-Mataraya Hospital, near to where the clashes took place.

You keep denying the fact that Islam is the most violent RELIGION on the face of the earth and I'll keep posting the usual weekly violence of Islam.

Deal?