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Old 09-15-2013, 06:26 PM
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No PO I don't think only those who hold my views are saved. You version of the Gospel is the whole Gospel to our little church, and the rest of the world can go to hell.
Their problem is that the gospel is Acts 2:38.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:26 PM
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Now I am interested in the thread.

Bernard made a post on Facebook about the unity of the UPC. I searched for it on his page and could not find it. I commented along the lines that there is disunity and they force out everyone that doesn't agree with them. He replied that my comment proved his point (of a unified UPC).
Interesting. I do remember a thread on DKBs Facebook page where Dan aptly pointed out the historic revision. I wonder if that thread was taken down, I can't remember how DKB responded but it seemed like an MSNBC worthy spin job.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:34 PM
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Their problem is that the gospel is Acts 2:38.
Acts 2:38 is the gospel. ( at least there is nothing wrong with quoting Acts 2:38 in regard to salvation, I do it all the time. But preached on justification thus morning. Acts 2:38 doesn't contradict anything).

Their problem is the MIS interpretation of Acts 2:38 and forcing tongues into the verse.

The simple fact is there are 2 commands and a promise, not "3 steps". Command repentance and baptism. Promise is the Spirit. Nothing about tongues, nor any mention or indication of tongues amongst the 3000. We are told the proper response for those who believed Peter was baptism. And they were added to the church.

If the UPC would stick to that then anyone who was willing to repent of their sins and be baptized in Jesus name would be "added" to the body. Now that's pretty Biblical sounding to me. Of course in reality THEY are still added to the body, the true church, just excluded from the UPC, one of thousands of man made denominations.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:41 PM
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Interesting. I do remember a thread on DKBs Facebook page where Dan aptly pointed out the historic revision. I wonder if that thread was taken down, I can't remember how DKB responded but it seemed like an MSNBC worthy spin job.
I can't say that he is not interested in dialogue. My opinion is that he is not. To be fair and balanced like Bill O'Reilly, there is a post on his wall where he stated that he posted:
August 5, 2012
I use FB to post thoughts, not debate, so I reserve right to remove hostile remarks; but at least they help me avoid danger of Luke 6:26
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:16 PM
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Their problem is that the gospel is Acts 2:38.
There problems bigger than that...how they interpret Acts 2:38 used to have some latitude, now there is only one way to interpret it. If you don't do it the way DKB does, you are out.
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There problems bigger than that...how they interpret Acts 2:38 used to have some latitude, now there is only one way to interpret it. If you don't do it the way DKB does, you are out.
I wish I could download this sermon onto my PC.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:40 PM
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Around 19min, he rails against Pentecostals voting for pro-choice candidates. This I can agree with him about!
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:47 PM
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27 - history of the founding. Good stuff. Wish it were the same today. Sad to see what the org has become.
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What has become of this preacher?
Is he still alive?
He mentioned Stockton.
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Old 09-15-2013, 07:52 PM
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Great illustration about the 12 gauge and barn. I agree with much of what he's said thus far; not sure if this was the forum for it though.
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