I Hope We Attack Syria Soon!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Pray for Syria.

In Jesus name!

[StillStanding]

US should have helped when the moderates were leading the anti-government group. Now, the Muslim extremists have taken over! If the US helps now, they are helping the extremists, which will come back to bite us.

Obama should let other European counties take the lead, and just be in a support role. Use cruise missiles if necessary, or enforce a no-fly zone. Nothing else.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Pliny

So you would support the rebels that are slaughtering people by cutting off their heads but not the regime that slaughters people by using chemicals.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...res-and-cheer/

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle35426.htm

Sooo... How do you feel about capital punishment?
Should we hang em or should we use chemicals?


BTW The rebels are militant Islamist's of one form or another.

One news article you linked simply has two or three lines of information that they themselves don't seem to know the whole story. The other news article is better detailed, yet it only has the word "Rebels" in the headline, and then it states. "Al Qaeda linked Rebels". throughout the article it identifies the suspects as jihadist and even links to an offshoot of Al Qaeda. As I said, I don't believe these men represent the main rebel movement, but they have filled a void of support needed by the rebels.

As I have also said, there will be no clear winner here. To take out some jihadist that are killing a dozen or more Christians is much more complicated than rendering a military incapable of continuing to kill hundreds. JMO.

Not really sure about your comment concerning capital punishment.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by n david

Warmongers will be warmongers. They demand American men and women be sent to die for nothing, and get drunk off the bloodshed. America has no interests in this Syrian civil war. By supporting the rebels, we're just arming, aiding and abetting the next US enemy.

I would agree with this, we have often had our efforts to help come back and bite us.

Originally Posted by n david

"Those who don't know history's mistakes are doomed to repeat them." The US is arrogant and ignorant of this. And it's mostly Republican, bloodthirsty warmongers who are to blame for crying for more conflict, more of our soldiers to be put in harms way for nothing.

I wonder, what is their vested interest in becoming involved in Syria? McCain and his bff Graham, and all the others...what kind of money do they have invested in defense contracts or arms makers that they continuously cry for more war?

Not sure what they have vested in it. But I have stated already that we should not have boots on the ground in Syria.

Originally Posted by n david

Most like JD and Scotty demand action, but I doubt would be very willing to either go themselves, or have their son or daughter be sent there.

See above.

Originally Posted by n david

Ask yourself...why in the world would Assad use chem weapons the very weekend the UN weapons team is arriving in the country? He knows what Obama has said about a red line....and so do the rebels. And now there are reports that the UN team was attacked by snipers....again, why would Assad target the UN team when he wants them to investigate the attack.

I'm sorry, but the rebels are a bunch of terrorists. They wouldn't think twice about bombing civilians and children in a chem attack if it meant Obama would send US forces to help overthrow the government and give them power.

I don't believe for one second that Assad did this. IMO it was the terrorist rebels we are arming.

You may be right. But there are some serious questions to be raised. 1) where did the rebels get chemical warheads, missiles, and launchers? 2) If the rebels do have such weapons wouldn't they be capable of overthrowing the government themselves? 3)Where do you get the information that Assad WANTS the UN to investigate? It has been wide spread news that the government has refused UN inspectors to the site until today.

Originally Posted by n david

And once Assad is gone, and these guys get into power...you think Egypt is a mess because of Obama's policy, just wait until these guys get control of Syria. Egypt will pale in comparison.

What Obama policy is responsible for Egypts mess?

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Scotty you know that you don't have to join the United States' military in order to fight over in Syria. All you need is a plane ticket.

As I have said, been there, done that. Too old now. And once again, I have said that we do not need boots on the ground in Syria.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Also should we continue to print more money in order to fight yet another war?

May I make a suggestion?

We need a little more prayer and conversions to the Apostolic faith, and a little less killing in the name of freedom with democracy for all.

Our country is starting to look more like an Empire than a Republic.

Easy now, your gonna stir up the crowd here that believes the Apostolic faith does not hold the blueprint for peace and salvation. But I would agree.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

Perhaps we need to keep both sides in a stalemate situation where neither sides wins.

Let's help till they end up with just two guys in a mano a mano confrontation with the winner being the ruler of a country with a population of one.

Yes.

Or just turn the country into a parking lot and be done with it.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

US should have helped when the moderates were leading the anti-government group. Now, the Muslim extremists have taken over! If the US helps now, they are helping the extremists, which will come back to bite us.

Obama should let other European counties take the lead, and just be in a support role. Use cruise missiles if necessary, or enforce a no-fly zone. Nothing else.

[n david]

Originally Posted by scotty

You may be right. But there are some serious questions to be raised. 1) where did the rebels get chemical warheads, missiles, and launchers? 2) If the rebels do have such weapons wouldn't they be capable of overthrowing the government themselves? 3)Where do you get the information that Assad WANTS the UN to investigate? It has been wide spread news that the government has refused UN inspectors to the site until today.

Where do terrorists normally get their weapons? Iran. Hezbollah. They have ways to get weapons. Why would the terrorists want to do the dirty work, when they can trick Obama and America into doing it for them. Having the US overthrow the government is a huge win win for the terrorists. 1) it gives them a path to power; 2) they can turn around and blame big, bad America for any civilian deaths which will occur should Assad be overthrown.

There was a story on Drudge about the UN inspectors coming under sniper fire, in which Assad was quoted as welcoming the inspection. I read they arrived Saturday and were allowed to proceed today.

Originally Posted by scotty

What Obama policy is responsible for Egypts mess?

Seriously??? Where to begin...

He stood with Mubarek until it was politically expedient to be against him. He then propped up the Muslim Brotherhood, funded and armed the group. Now the military completed a successful coup, but the administration doesn't want to label it as such. You don't think Obama's Egypt policy is, at best, muddled and murky, and bears at least some responsibility for the chaos there now?

In a year or two, Syria will be the same. Assad will be gone, due to our arming the terrorists and helping overthrow the government. The terrorists will take over with Obama's blessings. Suddenly, we'll find out these guys are really terrorists and not the cute, cuddly kind; but the women beating, Christian killing kind. The people will rise in revolt, and military may initiate a coup....

This is turning out to be almost exactly like Egypt.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by n david

Where do terrorists normally get their weapons? Iran. Hezbollah. They have ways to get weapons. Why would the terrorists want to do the dirty work, when they can trick Obama and America into doing it for them. Having the US overthrow the government is a huge win win for the terrorists. 1) it gives them a path to power; 2) they can turn around and blame big, bad America for any civilian deaths which will occur should Assad be overthrown.

If the terrorist had chemical warheads capable of being launched on a missile I highly doubt they would waste them in a country they already have influence over, they would be launching them into Israel or smuggling them into some other western power. This would also be a very risky plan, if the people ever found out they would be done in Syria just as they have been run out of other muslim countries because of their actions against the citizens.

Originally Posted by n david

There was a story on Drudge about the UN inspectors coming under sniper fire, in which Assad was quoted as welcoming the inspection. I read they arrived Saturday and were allowed to proceed today.

They have been there, long before Saturday. They were already there investigating a prior claim of chemical warfare. Their hotel is 15 minutes from the site where the attack happened last week yet the Assad government has denied them access until today. Officials say this is because the evidence of a chemical attack will degrade and be undetectable after 36 to 48 hours.

Originally Posted by n david

Seriously??? Where to begin...

He stood with Mubarek until it was politically expedient to be against him. He then propped up the Muslim Brotherhood, funded and armed the group. Now the military completed a successful coup, but the administration doesn't want to label it as such. You don't think Obama's Egypt policy is, at best, muddled and murky, and bears at least some responsibility for the chaos there now?

Obama supported a democratic process. Lets not forget, Morsi was democratically elected by the majority of the population after Mubarek was thrown out by the people. I hope he never labels it as a coup and I don't understand why Republicans are calling him to task for it. We don't want Morsi in office. The people of Egypt have realized their mistake as Morsi has done nothing he promised to do. Here in America we vote those people out in the next term. The people of Egypt decided not to wait. I give them Kudos for it.

Originally Posted by n david

In a year or two, Syria will be the same. Assad will be gone, due to our arming the terrorists and helping overthrow the government. The terrorists will take over with Obama's blessings. Suddenly, we'll find out these guys are really terrorists and not the cute, cuddly kind; but the women beating, Christian killing kind. The people will rise in revolt, and military may initiate a coup....

This is turning out to be almost exactly like Egypt.

I don't know about Egypt, this may turn out to be more like Libya. The Egyptian military are independent from the government, they operate to protect the will of people. The Syrian military operate to protect Assad, if he is overthrown I believe the military will scatter and dissolve much like the Lybian military did. Which will most likely leave Syria in a lawless state run by regional tribes much like Afghanastan or many current Islamic African countries.

So I will agree with you that there will be no good outcome in Syria. I am more concerned about the fact that it will create one more border from which militants will be able to attack Israel from.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The line has been crossed.

America needs to respond with military force.

President Obama hates war, but he has to see that it is a necessary evil.

There is so much at stake-- we must respond with military force and our response needs to be STRONG and soon.

he hates war?