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03-16-2017, 03:10 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Amanah
do you think Trump will be able to repeal/replace it successfully?
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I don't think he has any intention of repealing it.
The goal all along has been to "replace" it. He's draining the swamp right into the national drinking water supply.
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03-16-2017, 03:36 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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03-16-2017, 03:38 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
More GOP betrayal:
http://rightwingnews.com/obamacare/b...r-funded-care/
"The Healthcare reform legislation unveiled by GOP Leaders on Monday night would, at best, leave untouched a confirmation system that allowed up to 500,000 illegal aliens to access taxpayer-funded benefits over the years of the Obama administration. According to a 2016 Senate report, the government supplied $750 million of Obamacare subsidies to individuals whose immigration status didn’t quite match up to legal status. The GOP plan would leave in place that very same verification process, or worse, destroy the verification process altogether."
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03-16-2017, 03:51 PM
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J.esus i.s t.he o.ne God (463)
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Originalist
The Bill of Rights was not actually needed. It did not bestow a single right on anyone. Those who think it did do not know its history.
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Exactly, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights simply declares our GOD GIVEN rights, it doesn't grant them. The Declaration of Independence even says we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, such as:
1) Life (which immediately makes abortion illegal, as it always deprives of life)
2) Liberty (which would include those rights enumerated - but not granted - in the BoR)
3) Pursuit of happiness (key word being pursuit)
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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03-16-2017, 04:15 PM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Amanah
we got started down that path with Obama care, now we have to fix it.
from what I have read, Obama care took some of what the Swiss did, but not all of it.
one thing the Swiss did was divorce health care from people's jobs, which takes the burden off of employers and improves business.
Maybe, since we are going down that path anyway, we can learn from what the Swiss did to fix what is messed up.
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Many of those countries divorce healthcare from business and are job magnets. However, the people forfeit most of their paycheck. It will not happen here.
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03-16-2017, 05:11 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
One of the reasons medical care is so expensive is because of insurance, especially govt insurance (Medicaid, Medicare, etc).
When my first son was going to be born, I asked the lady in billing at hospital what it was going to cost. "6,000 dollars" or so. I said "What if I just paid cash?" She tapped her keyboard a bit and then said "3200 dollars."
Same exact service, half the price.
Mandating universal insurance means that cash price will be wiped out.
Thanks, commies.
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03-16-2017, 07:05 PM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Esaias
One of the reasons medical care is so expensive is because of insurance, especially govt insurance (Medicaid, Medicare, etc).
When my first son was going to be born, I asked the lady in billing at hospital what it was going to cost. "6,000 dollars" or so. I said "What if I just paid cash?" She tapped her keyboard a bit and then said "3200 dollars."
Same exact service, half the price.
Mandating universal insurance means that cash price will be wiped out.
Thanks, commies.
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The deceived class on this thread will not care.
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03-17-2017, 04:16 AM
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Covenant Apostolic
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
It's out of our hands anyway, the current administration will decide what it is going to be and we will have to wait and see.
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03-17-2017, 06:47 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Originalist
You obviously are clueless. The Constitution does not GIVE rights!
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Where did I say it does?
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03-17-2017, 06:56 AM
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J.esus i.s t.he o.ne God (463)
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Aquila
No, seriously. I think you're exaggerating. When you say socialism, you think of Communist regimes, marching armies, etc. I think of... see image below...
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And that just proves you're clueless about what socialism really is, if that's what you think it amounts to.
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Originally Posted by Originalist
Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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