AMF/Tulsa: the result of "tradition of men" - Page 3

Blaylock · #21 03-09-2008, 09:06 PM

What I havent been able to understand is that res#4 doesnt allow for anyone to broadcast their services on TV like some have stated (but what would the problem be with that) just advertising commercials letting people know who we are. It doesnt change the stance on having a tv its just an evangelism tool for all of us to use. Why would that make people take their ball and run

Pastor Keith · #22 03-09-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

When men take a point of scripture and extrapolate it, or extend it out, or stretch it out to mean more than the true God intended meaning, then you have synthesized a doctrine or a tradition of men.

This was Jesus' number one indictment, against the Pharisees and Sadducees.

Jesus said that they made "...the word of God of none effect through your tradition,...: and many such like things ye do." (Mk 7:13).

He gave examples of, to what He was referring. The legalists had taken the commandment: "Honor thy father and mother", and extrapolated it to mean that if they pledged all their estate to the temple, they would be released from their obligation to care for their aged parents. Greedy! Greedy!

Jesus also pointed out that they had extended simple hygenic practices of the law to included all kinds of cumbersome ceremonial procedures that placed unnecessarily heavy burdens on God's people.

No wonder that no one could ever keep "their law". (Jesus kept the royal law.)

The Apostolic Movement; though not monolythic, has "many such like things ye do"; this is the same as, "...,teaching for doctrines the commandments of men". (Mk 7:7)

When these dogmas are raised to the level of God's intended meaning, they become sacred cows, in the minds of the adhearants. When those sacred cows are kicked over, some just can't let go of them.

You don't think that helping God out, or adding fences for protections is a good thing?

There is actually a whole teaching about this issue, its called Binding and Loosing, some pastors feel because of their office that God actually backs their teaching on standards because of the whole principle of Binding and Loosing.

Dan'D · #23 03-10-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

When men take a point of scripture and extrapolate it, or extend it out, or stretch it out to mean more than the true God intended meaning, then you have synthesized a doctrine or a tradition of men.

This was Jesus' number one indictment, against the Pharisees and Sadducees.

Jesus said that they made "...the word of God of none effect through your tradition,...: and many such like things ye do." (Mk 7:13).

He gave examples of, to what He was referring. The legalists had taken the commandment: "Honor thy father and mother", and extrapolated it to mean that if they pledged all their estate to the temple, they would be released from their obligation to care for their aged parents. Greedy! Greedy!

Jesus also pointed out that they had extended simple hygenic practices of the law to included all kinds of cumbersome ceremonial procedures that placed unnecessarily heavy burdens on God's people.

No wonder that no one could ever keep "their law". (Jesus kept the royal law.)

The Apostolic Movement; though not monolythic, has "many such like things ye do"; this is the same as, "...,teaching for doctrines the commandments of men". (Mk 7:7)

When these dogmas are raised to the level of God's intended meaning, they become sacred cows, in the minds of the adhearants. When those sacred cows are kicked over, some just can't let go of them.

Are there any traditions of man that you agree with or do you think we should throw them all out.

Dan’D

Whole Hearted · #24 03-10-2008, 10:04 AM

freeatlast · #25 03-10-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

You don't think that helping God out, or adding fences for protections is a good thing?

There is actually a whole teaching about this issue, its called Binding and Loosing, some pastors feel because of their office that God actually backs their teaching on standards because of the whole principle of Binding and Loosing.

The "doctrine" of binding and loosing.

My old pastor said if I tell you, you have to wear bib overalls to make it and stand on your head in a corner....well then bless God you gotta do it or be lost.

That's why he's my "old pastor"

Me thinks the intrepretation of binding and loosing is another scripture sorely abused by OP preachers.

A_PoMo · #26 03-10-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NW Pastor

Don't you know nothin' Larry? Truth telling is bashing!!

A_PoMo · #27 03-10-2008, 10:37 AM

Considering this thread I thought this article was interesting. Perhaps we're more like the Catholics than we like to admit.

http://green.yahoo.com/news/nm/20080...e_sins_dc.html

Sister Alvear · #28 03-10-2008, 10:47 AM

Jesus shocked them all calling a woman a daughter of Abraham...

Wonder what else He would shock us with today?

commonsense · #29 03-10-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Jesus shocked them all calling a woman a daughter of Abraham...

Wonder what else He would shock us with today?

I totally agree.

commonsense · #30 03-10-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

You don't think that helping God out, or adding fences for protections is a good thing?

There is actually a whole teaching about this issue, its called Binding and Loosing, some pastors feel because of their office that God actually backs their teaching on standards because of the whole principle of Binding and Loosing.

It always amazes me when preachers "add" to the Word and it's accepted.
Pastors can give direction and guidelines, but silly me, I didn't think it was biblibal to add anything else as scripture.****