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Old 03-08-2023, 12:31 PM
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Re: Nuclear Annihilation Coming to a City Near You

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Technically, it means "light bearer" …
some modern corruption versions mistranslate it as morning star, leading to a problem.
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Old 03-08-2023, 01:01 PM
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some modern corruption versions mistranslate it as morning star, leading to a problem.
You sure it’s a mistranslation?
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Technically, it means "light bearer" but corresponds to Venus the "morning star". Anyways, Lucifer was a man, the king of Babylon to be exact, currently dead and in the grave.
You are correct. Also the word "which isn't a name" is also found in 2 Peter 1:19


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Et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris
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You sure it’s a mistranslation?
It's not a mistranslation. Just like Esaias posted, it was the first star which appear in the sky at dawn. Therefore it can be translated as the morning star, the star of dawn, and it would still be correct. We have to remember that during the time in which the Bible was written there was no such thing as English as we know it. Let alone Elizabethan English. Therefore all English versions from 1535 to now, would be considered "modern translations."
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Technically, it means "light bearer" but corresponds to Venus the "morning star". Anyways, Lucifer was a man, the king of Babylon to be exact, currently dead and in the grave.
Interesting topic, not with the intent to derail..
But Wednesday night at our home group meeting, a dad was expressing his study on Satan who was Lucifer, and how he fell from heaven, and the angels stopped singing in heaven now every since Satan got kicked out of heaven, they don’t sing anymore.
I said, where did you get that
He just basically said through studying.

I’ve never studied the topic.
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Interesting topic, not with the intent to derail..
But Wednesday night at our home group meeting, a dad was expressing his study on Satan who was Lucifer, and how he fell from heaven, and the angels stopped singing in heaven now every since Satan got kicked out of heaven, they don’t sing anymore.
I said, where did you get that
He just basically said through studying.

I’ve never studied the topic.
Must've been some Bible study.
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Interesting topic, not with the intent to derail..
But Wednesday night at our home group meeting, a dad was expressing his study on Satan who was Lucifer, and how he fell from heaven, and the angels stopped singing in heaven now every since Satan got kicked out of heaven, they don’t sing anymore.
I said, where did you get that
He just basically said through studying.

I’ve never studied the topic.
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Must've been some Bible study.
Must have been some BIBLE.
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Re: Nuclear Annihilation Coming to a City Near You

Shags post me of a cell group meeting my friend went to about 14 years ago. The person leading showed the group a video about the protein rapture and the tribulation. After the video he said, “that is how it’s going to happen!”

The people in attendance affirmed.
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Shags post me of a cell group meeting my friend went to about 14 years ago. The person leading showed the group a video about the protein rapture and the tribulation. After the video he said, “that is how it’s going to happen!”

The people in attendance affirmed.
Welp. So there ya have it. When a group gives affirmation, it becomes settled truths.
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Re: Nuclear Annihilation Coming to a City Near You

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...12&version=NIV

Esaias, Bowas, Elder D, or whoever else that wants at it, please splain your view of Rev 12:6-8
Seems to me the male child that was born in vs 5, is none other than Jesus Christ. Thereby the following verses would be at the time of his birth from Mary.
Anyway, I could be wrong, please explain your thoughts on these verses.

And more specifically 7-9

Thank you.
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