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Old 12-21-2007, 12:08 PM
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and what bible basis do you have for this agreement?
Around here, we make the bible say what we want it to say. Are you new?
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:09 PM
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Around here, we make the bible say what we want it to say. Are you new?
no but could you use the word...YOUNG i like it better.
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:16 PM
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no but could you use the word...YOUNG i like it better.
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:17 PM
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no but could you use the word...YOUNG i like it better.
Oh Sister I just spit my coffee out.
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:17 PM
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new sounds like ...smells like plastic.
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:18 PM
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Oh Sister I just spit my coffee out.
only because you know me.
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:19 PM
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only because you know me.

Yep. lol
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Re: XUPC Minister Starting GAY Church at Stonewall

Does anyone know if this preacher has returned to Christ yet?

Does anyone know how he's doing?
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Re: XUPC Minister Starting GAY Church at Stonewall

We have friends who identify themselves as gay, and it is a very complicated issue. I do agree with Trouvere's comments on the matter, particularly the following:

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I have a question for some of you.Do you ever ask any one taken by this sin over for dinner or out to eat? Do you try and win them as a friend or are you too afraid of being taken in by this spirit? Maybe thats the problem.Rejection is a spirit that is greatly felt by people bound by a homosexual spirit.They cling to each other as the sea(think Dantes portrait of hell) of life envelopes them.I believe Jesus wants them to wash up on the beach and climb to the lighthouse.Jesus is our hope.
I do see the same imagery of people "cling(ing) to each other as the sea... of life envelopes them."

When you don't feel the love and acceptance you need, it is very easy to seek it from those who are already enmeshed in the gay lifestyle/culture. One of our gay friends from before we were in church now attends a mainly "gay" church, after another Christian friend thought he would take him there, watch over him, and help him to go deeper in God. That person has since moved on, and whilst our gay friend has a great social life and lots of love and acceptance with the people at his church, they are never going to help him to get to the heart of the problem, because they don't see it as being a problem and they are mostly also happy to remain identifying as gay or lesbian.

Trouvere, can I private message you re. my friend?
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Re: XUPC Minister Starting GAY Church at Stonewall

I personally know the person mentioned here...it is a long sad story...His ex wife and her family are some of my best friends.

I do not care to comment much on this subject but I can tell you he left behind a beautiful sweet wife and children...I was with them the last time I was home and I can also assure you he has had many that have tried to help him...
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