Who's Your Next President?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Re-phrase your stance on abortion please.

When one takes the life of any life-form, that is murder. At least, that's what murder signifies here on Earth.

Now, my stance on abortion.... not that it relates in any way to this discussion... but.... at the point where the first blood cell exists (around day 21) there is absolutly no justifyable reason to kill the baby unless not doing so would cause the mother to die.

innocent life is to be protected. the bible says the life is in the blood. (this is my own view and my experience is that most people dont make this connection but this is what I got from studing scripture on the subject.)

the reason why I would make an expection of the life of the mother, is that at the point where the baby could cause the mothers death, the baby though innocent itself, is an instument of death. also generally speaking the baby would die as well.

I also think there is some argument to terminate a pregnancy where the baby is not viable. but this is slippery. some "not viable" babies would live for some period of time. others would be born with no brain and arent capable of survival in any form at all. so where is that line?

so there. thats my stance on abortion. its really really bad.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I know solid conservatives that are prochoice because they don't believe the government's role is to essentially seize a pregnant woman's body and force her to give birth. They say that as disturbing as abortion might be the final decision should rest with the woman alone. Now, that doesn't make it moral or right in any given circumstance. But the notion from these conservatives I was reading about is that a prochoice approach is a necessary evil in a civil society. Women should be educated about abortion and advised against it but the choice is best left in her hands.

Don't know what any of y'all will think about that, but I thought I'd drop it here since we're discussing abortion, murder, and life ethics. Frankly...that's all the Republicans have going for them this election.

this is the classic liberatarian argument. (and has nothing to do with murdering chickens which I am for)

but my position is that the governments key function is to protect innocent life. nothing is more innocent than a baby. There is no such thing as a legal choice that terminates an innocent human life..... unlike chickens which may be innocent but taste pretty good once they have been terminated.

[MrsMcD]

I find it hard to believe anyone could vote for Obama after him trusting his life/salvation to Jeremiah Wright. Lord, help us all if he gets voted in.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by MrsMcD

I find it hard to believe anyone could vote for Obama after him trusting his life/salvation to Jeremiah Wright. Lord, help us all if he gets voted in.

there is a song about that.

People are strange.

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Ferd

it butchering and i am for it!

Butcher:
1 a: a person who slaughters animals or dresses their flesh b: a dealer in meat
2: one that kills ruthlessly or brutally


Thank you.....confession is good for the soul!

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Butcher:
1 a: a person who slaughters animals or dresses their flesh b: a dealer in meat
2: one that kills ruthlessly or brutally


Thank you.....confession is good for the soul!

So, what does eating meat have to do with who we vote for?

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

So, what does eating meat have to do with who we vote for?

i dont know that eating meat has to do with it, but suggesting that we not eat meat comes from the spirit of the anti-christ according to the bible.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

Butcher:
1 a: a person who slaughters animals or dresses their flesh b: a dealer in meat
2: one that kills ruthlessly or brutally


Thank you.....confession is good for the soul!

LOL! then let me clarify. I was speaking of dressing an animal for consumption. not killing humans.

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Ferd

LOL! then let me clarify. I was speaking of dressing an animal for consumption. not killing humans.

Which is classified as butchering meaning one that ruthlessly or brutally kills and animal.


KILLER

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I know solid conservatives that are prochoice because they don't believe the government's role is to essentially seize a pregnant woman's body and force her to give birth. They say that as disturbing as abortion might be the final decision should rest with the woman alone. Now, that doesn't make it moral or right in any given circumstance. But the notion from these conservatives I was reading about is that a prochoice approach is a necessary evil in a civil society. Women should be educated about abortion and advised against it but the choice is best left in her hands.

Don't know what any of y'all will think about that, but I thought I'd drop it here since we're discussing abortion, murder, and life ethics. Frankly...that's all the Republicans have going for them this election.

That about sums up my feelings on the subject.