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Old 04-26-2007, 08:48 AM
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LOST???????????????????

What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????

Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?

Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???


Not going to church is not a problem????


Hating preachers is not a problem??????

Abandoning all standards is not a problem????

Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????

The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????

WHAT SAY YOU???????????????????????????????
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:57 AM
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Steve,

Here is what you must do to be lost:

2: Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found THY WORKS PERFECT BEFORE GOD.
3: Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
4: Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.
5: He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Rev. 3:2-5

If ones works are not perfect his name will be blotted out of the book of life. So its time to go on to perfection.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:59 AM
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What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????

Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?

Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???


Not going to church is not a problem????


Hating preachers is not a problem??????

Abandoning all standards is not a problem????

Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????

The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????

WHAT SAY YOU???????????????????????????????
Lets see....a judgmental spirit for one. So alot of them would be lost. You preach mercy, not getting what we deserve, and grace, getting what we do not deserve, to sinners, but no chance a current saint gets mercy and grace from ministry. Almost every single oneness person I know is this way. It is like this, before we "find" God we do not know any better so if we do these things then we are alright. But those current saints that mess up people treat them like this, now you are "in the way" you can not make a mistake because now you know better.

What since does that make? Does God's grace and mercy run out after we are saved? Lord no! Infact, it probably increases toward us. Living for God is easy, but living in the real word is tough sometimes so God gives us great grace and multiplied mercy. His mercy is new every morning. Find a UPC preacher that will accually follow that....needle...haystack?
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:01 AM
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Lets see....a judgmental spirit for one. So alot of them would be lost. You preach mercy, not getting what we deserve, and grace, getting what we do not deserve, to sinners, but no chance a current saint gets mercy and grace from ministry. Almost every single oneness person I know is this way. It is like this, before we "find" God we do not know any better so if we do these things then we are alright. But those current saints that mess up people treat them like this, now you are "in the way" you can not make a mistake because now you know better.

What since does that make? Does God's grace and mercy run out after we are saved? Lord no! Infact, it probably increases toward us. Living for God is easy, but living in the real word is tough sometimes so God gives us great grace and multiplied mercy. His mercy is new every morning. Find a UPC preacher that will accually follow that....needle...haystack?
Sorry I am NOT UPC and have never been they are too weak!
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:02 AM
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Lets see....a judgmental spirit for one. So alot of them would be lost. You preach mercy, not getting what we deserve, and grace, getting what we do not deserve, to sinners, but no chance a current saint gets mercy and grace from ministry. Almost every single oneness person I know is this way. It is like this, before we "find" God we do not know any better so if we do these things then we are alright. But those current saints that mess up people treat them like this, now you are "in the way" you can not make a mistake because now you know better.

What since does that make? Does God's grace and mercy run out after we are saved? Lord no! Infact, it probably increases toward us. Living for God is easy, but living in the real word is tough sometimes so God gives us great grace and multiplied mercy. His mercy is new every morning. Find a UPC preacher that will accually follow that....needle...haystack?
you are deluded in your thinking, Brother! Now, if you define mercy and grace as tolerant of open and overt sin you might be correct. Otherwise your comments are full of fluff!
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:04 AM
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you are deluded in your thinking, Brother! Now, if you define mercy and grace as tolerant of open and overt sin you might be correct. Otherwise your comments are full of fluff!
His concept of the Love of God is 2 hippies in a sleeping bag.
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Lets see....a judgmental spirit for one. So alot of them would be lost. You preach mercy, not getting what we deserve, and grace, getting what we do not deserve, to sinners, but no chance a current saint gets mercy and grace from ministry. Almost every single oneness person I know is this way. It is like this, before we "find" God we do not know any better so if we do these things then we are alright. But those current saints that mess up people treat them like this, now you are "in the way" you can not make a mistake because now you know better.

What since does that make? Does God's grace and mercy run out after we are saved? Lord no! Infact, it probably increases toward us. Living for God is easy, but living in the real word is tough sometimes so God gives us great grace and multiplied mercy. His mercy is new every morning. Find a UPC preacher that will accually follow that....needle...haystack?
I know those that practice mercy and grace ... and some who are overly sensitive if anyone corrects them ....
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What would a Jesus Name Pentecostal have to do to become lost????

Fellowshipping Trinitarians is not a problem?

Being a pervert(gay) is not a problem???


Not going to church is not a problem????


Hating preachers is not a problem??????

Abandoning all standards is not a problem????

Lying on the AS is not a problem??????????

The ONLY thing I know that some feel that would cause an Apostolic to be lost is to keep outward standards???????????

WHAT SAY YOU???????????????????????????????

This is plumb wierd on many levels.

Why would you throw that in?
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His concept of the Love of God is 2 hippies in a sleeping bag.
And some perceive God's love as a total of 2 in heaven.
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This is plumb wierd on many levels.

Why would you throw that in?
Because folks on here think nothing of fellowshipping Trinitarians.
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