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Old 01-12-2021, 02:33 PM
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Re: I'll Say It Again - IT'S OVER!

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Anyone who thinks America's only hope for preserving the republic was in Trump will be depressed, I'm sure. But I am energized. The Dems have bitten off more than they can chew. I am concerned, however, at the compromise that will engulf the church when social media cracks down on us. But just think of the power that God unleashes in our midst for boldly declaring that simple message, "Jesus Christ is Lord of all and REIGNS." All the compromisers in the church that would not stand with Trump for being "mean-spirited" will turn on us as well who stand up for truth. Mark them now and break ties with them.
It isn't just "the dems". It's the entire uniparty, democrat and republican. BOTH of them are the problem.
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Old 01-12-2021, 02:56 PM
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What is the church's mission? If any good can come out of this I hope it is that the church gets back to its original mission and stops getting so involved in politics or so enamored with politicians. Get back to the Great Commission. Get back to prayer and Bible study.

I love what you wrote: "But just think of the power that God unleashes in our midst for boldly declaring that simple message, "Jesus Christ is Lord of all and REIGNS."" Amen! Get back to the beginning, back to the basics of the Gospel.

I don't read anywhere of the early church becoming involved in resistance to the Roman government or clamoring for civil war. They focused on one thing: the Kingdom of God and the Gospel of Christ.

I really hope the church, especially the leaders and those who have become so entangled in politics, will step back and get back to the original mission, the Great Commission.
Exactly right. The next 4 years will see the new America divorcing the Churches.
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Old 01-12-2021, 03:52 PM
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Exactly right. The next 4 years will see the new America divorcing the Churches.
And depending on the Church reaction, the overreach could backfire.

Or . . . not. I'm the last guy to try to determine why God does what he does. Trump was an outlier. Somewhere in the middle of this the "Cyrus" thing (Or even Jehu, which was one of Johnathan Cahn's summations, which I still find fascinating) came out, and somebody told Trump he was Cyrus (not a good thing to tell a guy with his penchant for adulation).

But he got three justices through that are somewhat reliable on big-ticket stuff.

Ginsberg's Rosh Hashanah death was another odd thing.

Then . . . this. So me? I give up.

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Old 01-12-2021, 05:15 PM
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Trump was a blessing in this sense. We had 4 more years to prepare ourselves for the things that are coming. He failed in that he didnt make war against abortion. As of a few weeks ago Planned Parenthood was getting twice as much Federal Funding as under Obama.

And we all know he supported Sodom all the way using quid quo pro with nations that opposed it.

Nonetheless Im thankful he was there. It could have been much worse under the Dems.
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Old 01-12-2021, 09:00 PM
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Has to be this way, according to scripture in the end wickedness will reign.
For Christians all roads lead to victory.
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Old 01-13-2021, 02:50 AM
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Has to be this way, according to scripture in the end wickedness will reign.
For Christians all roads lead to victory.
I am a partial preterists and reject dispensational eschatology.
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Old 01-13-2021, 05:10 AM
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I am a partial preterists and reject dispensational eschatology.
So Partial Preterism has a road to defeat for Christians?
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Old 01-13-2021, 05:24 AM
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Has to be this way, according to scripture in the end wickedness will reign.
For Christians all roads lead to victory.
I guess Preterists believe the times will be good before Jesus comes. The bad times are in the past.
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Old 01-13-2021, 07:14 AM
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I guess Preterists believe the times will be good before Jesus comes. The bad times are in the past.
You are guessing? You don't know?
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I prefer the middle way of Hebrews 2:8

We are seated with Jesus in heavenly places, but as of yet not all enemies are destroyed.
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