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07-13-2010, 11:54 AM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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What difference does it make which daughter it was?
Bro. Fogarty made a huge mistake, but was always known to be a good man...a close friend of my brother. I met him only once at the funeral of my nephew.
Let us pray for all involved...this is not a happy time for anyone.
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So I could drag her name through the mud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jkjk
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07-13-2010, 11:57 AM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Slander aside: I don't think going swimming with someone else's husband is a good idea. 
My husband wouldn't appreciate it, that's for sure. |
Agreed
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07-13-2010, 11:58 AM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Originally Posted by DAII
Kennedy said Angela Driver was accused in front of the congregation in effect of nine acts that ranged from bestiality to prostitution to child molestation because the pastor never named which one she actually was accused of doing.
The lows some religious folk will stoop to behind their bibles and ecclesiastical robes.
Read more: http://www.macon.com/2010/07/07/1187...#ixzz0tZdsr7tx
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Since Im late, I don't know if anyone else commented. It seems the Lawyer is not saying the Pastor literally accused her of each, but by NOT being specific as to the details of what she was accused of essentially accused her, in the minds of the congregation, of each of those acts
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07-13-2010, 11:59 AM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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I read that, DA. However, it came across to me as his personal "issues" with her as a saint--not an exhaustive list of reasons for the divorce.
I would agree, generally speaking, that a lack of submission to authority and immodest clothing are problems for a Christian woman. Wouldn't you? I'm not supportive of men abusing that authority, and I'm not supportive of a husband forcing his wife to dress modestly. Those things should be independent choices.
From a woman's standpoint, though, if I'm trying to please God, I think that includes modesty in behavior & appearance, and submitting to my husband's authority in the home.
In that regard, as I said earlier, I'm not willing to give Ms. Driver a free pass simply because she won her court case.
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Keeping in mind he may have been heavily influenced in his ear by those close to him, Brat.
It would seem that her non-attendance in church may have had something to do with her seeing things differently as to mode of dress ... etc ...
and not necessarily not being submissive ....
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07-13-2010, 12:00 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Prance around at a pool with mutual friends (s) ... the nerve.
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It says the husband of a mutual friend. It makes it seem as though the two were alone and the husband discovered it
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07-13-2010, 12:02 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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It says the husband of a mutual friend. It makes it seem as though the two were alone and the husband discovered it
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Again ... unverifiable and conjecture.
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07-13-2010, 12:05 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
The pattern remains the same with the good ol' boys network ...
Operate as demagogues and manipulate by weaving stories to justify even the most blatantly wrong situations
While never retracting ... or apologizing ...
while the victims are become the accused
Happy to see justice served.
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07-13-2010, 12:05 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Again ... unverifiable and conjecture.
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Im just going by the grammar of the article
One of the reasons the pastor gave James Driver as grounds to biblically remarry was that James Driver once found his then-wife Angela Driver wearing a bikini at a swimming pool while with the husband of a mutual friend.
He FOUND his wife not with mutual friends but with the husband OF a mutual friend. He
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07-13-2010, 12:07 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Im just going by the grammar of the article
One of the reasons the pastor gave James Driver as grounds to biblically remarry was that James Driver once found his then-wife Angela Driver wearing a bikini at a swimming pool while with the husband of a mutual friend.
He FOUND his wife not with mutual friends but with the husband OF a mutual friend.
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And again we don't know the setting ... who else was there ...
Or the plausible motives SIL to perhaps even embellish or fabricate ...
All based on conjecture ...
What is verifiable is that audio tape while trying to throw the victim under the bus for what is NOT FORNICATION.
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07-13-2010, 12:08 PM
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Re: UPC Pastor Convicted of Slander in Pulpit!
I think you guys are misreading the article. These actions are not justified in anyway, but it seems clear from the grammar that
The attorney argued that by not naming the specific act of fornication it could be implied in anyone's mind any number of 9 different acts of fornication. Not that the pastor said "She committed bestiality"...the lawyer said he did NOT specify what it was
And second, it does not say they were all together with mutual friends but that he found her with the husband of a mutual friend
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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