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Old 02-01-2019, 11:29 PM
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I'm considering abandoning the internet

I understand some things (business related) are just a necessity, but more and more I find the internet to be essentially useless for anything other than economic purchasing, weather updates, and maybe tutorials on certain skills/crafts.

I was just at some Bible reading plan site, looking at a reading plan that covered a particular topic over several days. I read the passages for day 1, then clicked on day 2. Oh, no, so sorry, must "sign in with Facebook or Google". Really?

WHY???? What could possibly be the reason?

The internet basically sucks now. Its just like WalMart: TONS of mostly useless cheap junk, can't ever find what I'm ACTUALLY looking for, no helpful services, and endless marketing with lying claims of superior products and better deals, unnecessarily long waits while all the background spybots load on every page...

It's becoming a "not worth the hassle" exercise in futility.
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Old 02-02-2019, 04:46 AM
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I understand some things (business related) are just a necessity, but more and more I find the internet to be essentially useless for anything other than economic purchasing, weather updates, and maybe tutorials on certain skills/crafts.

I was just at some Bible reading plan site, looking at a reading plan that covered a particular topic over several days. I read the passages for day 1, then clicked on day 2. Oh, no, so sorry, must "sign in with Facebook or Google". Really?

WHY???? What could possibly be the reason?

The internet basically sucks now. Its just like WalMart: TONS of mostly useless cheap junk, can't ever find what I'm ACTUALLY looking for, no helpful services, and endless marketing with lying claims of superior products and better deals, unnecessarily long waits while all the background spybots load on every page...

It's becoming a "not worth the hassle" exercise in futility.



If you ever need a research junkie Id be glad to help. I totally get what you mean though. Me personally, I used to be totally focused on more of the entertainment aspect of the internet. Ive realized that most of our society especially the entertainment industry is designed to manipulate our feelings and emotions and to keep us docile.


Ive made the switch however and Im nearly 90% focused on education, self growth and preparation.



Ive also distanced myself from things I cannot change and am not in the position to change.



Constant bombardment of news designed to keep us anxious and looking for a help other than Christ...


Also its a constant distraction that must always redouble its efforts to keep the viewer/consumer distracted and not focused on the real threat.


That feeling of impending doom?



Its not from the constant barrage of information...its that quiet voice inside thats telling us that something is coming...something is building and we need to wake up...but our mainstream culture fills us another warm bottle and rocks us right back to sleep while inside we are screaming for ourselves to wake up


Esaias, do you not feel as if you have something to offer those that are on a similar path that you are on?


Are you sure that the urge to seclude yourself isnt the enemy trying to get you to self silence?


I don't know...all I know is that when I read this post I felt a sense of loss and sadness.


Maybe its me...maybe the next step to self sufficiency IS isolation...Even God shut the door to the Ark....maybe its the same principle...maybe to focus on our immediate families and their preservation and this to be for a later time when we will be needed


Or maybe we need to refocus our efforts in education and mentorship...reach out to those on a similar path, share wisdom and knowledge as we can...brainstorm...plan.


People are realizing that they need to prepare....they dont know exactly for what.


I spend a lot of time talking with people while driving and talking to them about self sufficiency and making their families priorities and not staying a wage slave...its well received but since they know nothing but what society has told them they must do...they need to be taught how...they need to see those possibilities of a better existence.



Im not done researching and being educated...if I had other sources of information and education Id be a lot more open to unplugging...but for now Im making up for lost time...Ive been asleep for far too long.
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Old 02-02-2019, 04:40 PM
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If you ever need a research junkie Id be glad to help. I totally get what you mean though. Me personally, I used to be totally focused on more of the entertainment aspect of the internet. Ive realized that most of our society especially the entertainment industry is designed to manipulate our feelings and emotions and to keep us docile.


Ive made the switch however and Im nearly 90% focused on education, self growth and preparation.



Ive also distanced myself from things I cannot change and am not in the position to change.



Constant bombardment of news designed to keep us anxious and looking for a help other than Christ...


Also its a constant distraction that must always redouble its efforts to keep the viewer/consumer distracted and not focused on the real threat.


That feeling of impending doom?



Its not from the constant barrage of information...its that quiet voice inside thats telling us that something is coming...something is building and we need to wake up...but our mainstream culture fills us another warm bottle and rocks us right back to sleep while inside we are screaming for ourselves to wake up


Esaias, do you not feel as if you have something to offer those that are on a similar path that you are on?


Are you sure that the urge to seclude yourself isnt the enemy trying to get you to self silence?


I don't know...all I know is that when I read this post I felt a sense of loss and sadness.


Maybe its me...maybe the next step to self sufficiency IS isolation...Even God shut the door to the Ark....maybe its the same principle...maybe to focus on our immediate families and their preservation and this to be for a later time when we will be needed


Or maybe we need to refocus our efforts in education and mentorship...reach out to those on a similar path, share wisdom and knowledge as we can...brainstorm...plan.


People are realizing that they need to prepare....they dont know exactly for what.


I spend a lot of time talking with people while driving and talking to them about self sufficiency and making their families priorities and not staying a wage slave...its well received but since they know nothing but what society has told them they must do...they need to be taught how...they need to see those possibilities of a better existence.



Im not done researching and being educated...if I had other sources of information and education Id be a lot more open to unplugging...but for now Im making up for lost time...Ive been asleep for far too long.
Hey, I hear ya. I'm just tired of the incessant consumerism, "log in with fakebook", advertisements interrupting everything... can't even watch a guitar tutorial on the phrygian mode in C sharp without having to wade through some stupid commercial for car insurance or Doritos....

I'm trying to refocus my efforts on real people in real life.

As for prepping, there's still lots of information out there but I notice it's getting harder to find quality information these days. A goof website is FerFal's page, he survived the Argentinian collapse and provides realistic info on what really happens in an economic collapse/WROL (without rule of law) situation. The Mad Max road warrior bug out scenario is science fiction, for the most part.

http://www.themodernsurvivalist.com
http://ferfal.blogspot.com

James Rawles' blog/website has lots of DIY info: https://survivalblog.com
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Old 02-02-2019, 06:16 PM
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The internet is like almost everything. It can be good or bad depending on how you use it. There are many concerning things about the "big brother" aspect of the internet but I really don't have anything to hide so at this time I think the good far outweighs the negative.
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The internet is like almost everything. It can be good or bad depending on how you use it. There are many concerning things about the "big brother" aspect of the internet but I really don't have anything to hide so at this time I think the good far outweighs the negative.
The worst part is the crass commercialism, everyone trying to sell you something or get your info so they can sell it to someone else.

And commercials on utube video tutorials? Good grief that's an abomination.
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The worst part is the crass commercialism, everyone trying to sell you something or get your info so they can sell it to someone else.

And commercials on utube video tutorials? Good grief that's an abomination.

Um....do you have some sort of moral qualms with adblockers?
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Um....do you have some sort of moral qualms with adblockers?
I haven't found one that blocks them all. YouTube video have ads embedded in them, haven't found a way to stop those.
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I haven't found one that blocks them all. YouTube video have ads embedded in them, haven't found a way to stop those.

I use UBlock and a couple more simultaneously.


I dont remember having problems after that.
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You've not read 1984, I take it?
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Re: I'm considering abandoning the internet

In recent years especially since the onslaught of social media I am starting to notice the difference in folks that have never really gotten on board with computers or the internet. Some only as recent as a year or two ago never had been on the internt. Some of this is not so good but in a way look at all the data overload they have avoided.

I work with a guy like this. Newspaper and some TV news is still it for him.
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