Trump was right, again...

[aegsm76]

link
http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/clapper-s...tapping-trump/
snippets
It was only a few months ago that James Clapper, President Obama’s director of national intelligence, issued a flat denial when asked if he knew of a FISA court order to wiretap the Trump campaign in 2016.

Now he’s abruptly changing his story, admitting that Trump could have been recorded on wiretaps.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Isn't he saying that Trump could have been inadvertently recorded as opposed to a wiretap specifically on Trump?

[aegsm76]

JD - it is a matter of semantics. But, all of the intelligence chiefs scoffed earlier in the year when Trump tweeted that he had been wiretapped.
Now they are admitting that he may have been "inadvertently" recorded.
Their earlier statements were taken by the press as more proof of Trump lying.
I doubt if you hear any retractions from the MSM, now.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

JD - it is a matter of semantics. But, all of the intelligence chiefs scoffed earlier in the year when Trump tweeted that he had been wiretapped.
Now they are admitting that he may have been "inadvertently" recorded.
Their earlier statements were taken by the press as more proof of Trump lying.
I doubt if you hear any retractions from the MSM, now.

But that very thing was said earlier in the year. The talk of a FISA warrant for wire-tapping that may have inadvertently recorded 45 is not a new development.

As for "Obama's" involvement...


Tower of FISA

If nothing else, Trump’s tweets show he doesn’t understand how the FISA system works. If he did, he may have limited himself to tweeting about Arnold Schwartzenegger quitting *The Apprentice *this morning.



“While the order would have been requested by some part of the executive branch, Obama can’t order anything. Nor can Trump,” says former NSA lawyer April Doss, who stresses that her comments are based only on public information. “The order has to come from the court, and the court operates independently.”


https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-w...t-obama-worry/

[Jermyn Davidson]

March 22, 2017

House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes declared Wednesday that members of Donald Trump’s transition team, possibly including Trump himself, were under inadvertent surveillance following November’s presidential election.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-obama-236366

[Jermyn Davidson]

What I see is that 45 and his people specifically are trying to create as much smoke and confusion around this as possible. Every week, there is a contradiction, a lie, or mistake-- all surrounding the same subject with all of the same characters contradicting themselves and each other?

We need to keep digging.

[aegsm76]

I have a serious problem with ANY wiretap that may have been placed in ANY presidential campaign.
If anyone in the Trump campaign was wiretapped, even with a FISA courts ok, that is Watergate worthy stuff.
And we already have a history of the BHO admin (or its supporters) interferring in a campaign.
Which has been totally glossed over in the media.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

But that very thing was said earlier in the year. The talk of a FISA warrant for wire-tapping that may have inadvertently recorded 45 is not a new development.

As for "Obama's" involvement...


Tower of FISA

If nothing else, Trump’s tweets show he doesn’t understand how the FISA system works. If he did, he may have limited himself to tweeting about Arnold Schwartzenegger quitting *The Apprentice *this morning.



“While the order would have been requested by some part of the executive branch, Obama can’t order anything. Nor can Trump,” says former NSA lawyer April Doss, who stresses that her comments are based only on public information. “The order has to come from the court, and the court operates independently.”


https://www.wired.com/2017/03/feds-w...t-obama-worry/

I find it highly offensive and hypocritical on your part, that you have the gall to right away call President Trump as 45 yet in your next statement you said
As for "Obama's" involvement...

how about you showing the same level of respect to Obama and say
As for "44 involvement...

you dear sir are highly disrespectful and highly biased and it shows in your words choice.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

What I see is that 45 and his people specifically are trying to create as much smoke and confusion around this as possible. Every week, there is a contradiction, a lie, or mistake-- all surrounding the same subject with all of the same characters contradicting themselves and each other?

We need to keep digging.

What I see is a highly disrespectful, angry and bitter person who, is not able to have the good manners of calling the president by his real name.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by FlamingZword

What I see is a highly disrespectful, angry and bitter person who, is not able to have the good manners of calling the president by his real name.

Really? Do you want to try to count how many times Obama's name was smeared, mispronounced, etc purposefully on this very forum?

Besides, 45's responses to Charlottesvile, his lies and the lies of the people in his inner circle concerning his campaign's potential conspiring with Russia, the fact that his cabinet has been in disarray from day one, the fact that he is the most unpresidential President of my LIFETIME, his unabashed commitment to his absolutely brain-dead and inefficient idea to build a literal wall between America and Mexico, his complete immorality, and everything else about him that I can't even think of in the 20 seconds it took for me to write this response COMPELS ME to refer to him as 45-- if at all.


How many times on this forum did people announce, " Obama is not my President"? Then count how many other so-called Christian conservatives said those types of things and worse about President Obama and his family-- even his mother? Did you announce your moral outrage when on AFF a member plainly stated that he wished Obama's mother had an abortion instead of giving birth to him?

Where was your moral outrage then? Where was your moral outrage for the birther junk-- PUSHED WAY BEYOND THE LIMITS OF DECENCY by 45 as he constantly tried to undermine Obama's presidency? Where was your moral outrage then?

Where has your moral outrage been for the last 8, even 9 years?


Only one person on this thread is displaying hypocrisy and that is you.

By the way... Who are you? What is your name?

You and your vain moral outrage is not even worth a peso!