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Old 09-15-2013, 08:30 AM
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Tragedy of War RECOVERED! LISTEN!

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Loren Yadon's Epic "The Tragedy of War" : On January 25, 1993, at the Landmark Conference, in Stockton, CA, Rev. Loren Yadon, nephew of an original General Board member of the United Pentecostal Church and teacher at Christian Life College, would speak truth about the intents of the his elders. He spoke of the "narrow mindedness" that had entered his ministerial organization, after the Westberg Resolution was passed at the 1992 General Conference, and instituted a divisive affirmation statement. A movement that has sought to silence a divergent view of salvation within its leaders.

It would cost him his job. His career. His error ... SPEAKING TRUTH.

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Old 09-15-2013, 08:31 AM
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The remarks about the UPC start at the 23 minute mark.
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:44 AM
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It's old news. No one cares anymore.
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Deleted my post.

Never mind.... I decided it is best that I don't get into a discussion on this thread.
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Good stuff.
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Old news...but historic...and prophetic.

Two major departures and one gradual exodus later they still haven't learned their lesson in the UPCI.
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Reposted from Dan Alicea's facebook wall:

Loren Yadon's Epic "The Tragedy of War" : On January 25, 1993, at the Landmark Conference, in Stockton, CA, Rev. Loren Yadon, nephew of an original General Board member of the United Pentecostal Church and teacher at Christian Life College, would speak truth about the intents of the his elders. He spoke of the "narrow mindedness" that had entered his ministerial organization, after the Westberg Resolution was passed at the 1992 General Conference, and instituted a divisive affirmation statement. A movement that has sought to silence a divergent view of salvation within its leaders.

It would cost him his job. His career. His error ... SPEAKING TRUTH.

https://soundcloud.com/lukeodle/tragedy-of-war
They simply shot the messenger.
The message still not getting thru, that is why the UPCI is in a decline and will continue in decline.
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:59 PM
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A message can only cause a change when it is received by the listeners...
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Old news...but historic...and prophetic.

Two major departures and one gradual exodus later they still haven't learned their lesson in the UPCI.
Perhaps this is a good thing and we should encourage the hard core conservatives to keep on making even more resolutions, who knows with more departures and a bigger exodus, they might shrink enough to the point of becoming irrelevant.
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Perhaps this is a good thing and we should encourage the hard core conservatives to keep on making even more resolutions, who knows with more departures and a bigger exodus, they might shrink enough to the point of becoming irrelevant.
I have been gone from the UPC since shortly after the fallout from this sermon so I have no desire to tear down the organization. I do find it sad that so many of us were forced out by he hardliners when we would have been happy to stay but for the attitude that we must all believe the same on every passage and every issue.
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