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Old 12-03-2020, 08:44 AM
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I have no idea, as I haven't gotten that deep into that chapter but a quick reading tells me what I posted. Nevertheless, the underlying message of the prophecy is very clear to me
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Your carnal man reads the Bible, not your Holy Ghost. Your Holy Ghost just helps you understand it better.
How many Holy Ghosts are there?

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I explained that in Part 2. Yes.
There you go Amanah.

Just keep watching Mike's hour long videos, and sooner or later, you'll get it.

Mike, do you actually even have maybe a small group who congregate at your home for study and fellowship? How's Pal Talk going for you. You still have your following of housewives?
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I’m sorry, please explain.
Good luck with that.
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Your carnal man reads the Bible, not your Holy Ghost. Your Holy Ghost just helps you understand it better.
I can honestly say I’ve never heard that before.

Can you tell me if you have the Holy Ghost?
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I can honestly say I’ve never heard that before.

Can you tell me if you have the Holy Ghost?
Neither has Sean.
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Ok I’ve stood idly by and watched this being hashed out, about who the woman is?
Well it’s Israel. She is given 2 wings( the only scriptural reference to America), because if it hadn’t been for America , then Germany and Hitler would have eradicated the Jews.
I guess it was America that saved the Israel from the Egyptians.
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Exo 19:4.. Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself...
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Did God divorce spiritual Israel or Natural Israel? In Jeremiah 3:8, it also refers to Judah as Israel’s sister, therefore I personally believe the Lord is dealing with literal nation’s rather than the spiritual church. I don’t believe God has ever has divorced Israel “the church”. The divorcement was to the “earthly nation” of Israel and that is where most dispensationalist come up with the Lord returning to national Israel. I personally suspect there will be no return to national Israel, because that would be going in reverse. The gospel is now available for the whole Earth, no matter the nationality.
Yes, God was married to "literal Israel", the descendants of Abraham Isaac, and Jacob. And He divorced most of them (the northern kingdom of Israel, consisting of the ten tribes that rebelled against Rehoboam and separated from Judah).

He promised He would restore THOSE PEOPLE back to Himself, that he would "remarry" them. It's all in the prophecies and promises I posted earlier. There simply is no denying that God promised to remarry and redeem the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That promise is what the establishing of the new covenant is about.

That restoration of Israel to God was being fulfilled in the first century via the spread of the Gospel. Paul stated it was being fulfilled in his day in Romans 9. Peter likewise stated the new covenant church is the restoration of Israel's status as the people of God, referencing the very same prophecies that speak of Israel being remarried to God.

"Spiritual Israel" is in reality the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob restored to God through the new covenant in Christ. The church is not a wholly distinct entity from Israel. The idea that God's bride in the old testament is a wholly different group of people that His bride in the new testament is the SOURCE of dispensationalism's errors.
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In my opinion this is the danger of looking at the kingdom or the church in a physical, natural way.
You equate "physical" with "natural". The Bible does not. You are judging things from a non Biblical perspective. The church is a people. Those people are physical people. Yet the church is spiritual. Those people are spiritual, according to the Bible. Therefore, it is entirely Biblical (and thus spiritual) to acknowledge that things can be both spiritual and physical at the same time with no conflict or contradiction.

It is spiritual to be submit one's ideas to the Word of God. It is CARNAL and NATURAL to resist and reject the teachings and statements of God's Word. A lot of people think they are spiritually minded but in reality they are carnally minded. Because they do not submit their thoughts to the Word, but instead persist in worldly nonBiblical thinking.

And it is nonBiblical and worldly to claim that "spiritual must be opposite to physical". That is in fact paganism. It is at the root of all pagan philosophies and religions. And it is contrary to God's Revealed Truth contained in and spelled out by His Word.
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