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Satan opens eyes & God opens eyes - the difference

When satan led Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, their eyes were opened and they saw their nakedness that was always their state, but they never knew it before. And it led to shame.

But Paul prayed that our eyes be opened in Eph 1 to also see something that was always with s since our NEW CREATION, and it ENCOURAGES US! Paul said we have always had, since salvation, the same power that resurrected and enthroned Jesus upon us, and we just have not seen it!

Fruit of knowledge of good and evil versus fruit of Life!
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When satan led Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, their eyes were opened and they saw their nakedness that was always their state, but they never knew it before. And it led to shame.
I heard a preacher once talk about how Adam and Eve - prior to the fall - were clothed in the glory of God. It was because of their disobedience that the glory of God left them, and that's why they now saw themselves as naked. Thoughts?

Not to derail your thread (as if that ever happens here ), but your post reminded me of that.
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When satan led Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, their eyes were opened and they saw their nakedness that was always their state, but they never knew it before. And it led to shame.

But Paul prayed that our eyes be opened in Eph 1 to also see something that was always with s since our NEW CREATION, and it ENCOURAGES US! Paul said we have always had, since salvation, the same power that resurrected and enthroned Jesus upon us, and we just have not seen it!

Fruit of knowledge of good and evil versus fruit of Life!
Beautiful!!!
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When satan led Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, their eyes were opened and they saw their nakedness that was always their state, but they never knew it before. And it led to shame.

But Paul prayed that our eyes be opened in Eph 1 to also see something that was always with s since our NEW CREATION, and it ENCOURAGES US! Paul said we have always had, since salvation, the same power that resurrected and enthroned Jesus upon us, and we just have not seen it!

Fruit of knowledge of good and evil versus fruit of Life!
Good thoughts.
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I heard a preacher once talk about how Adam and Eve - prior to the fall - were clothed in the glory of God. It was because of their disobedience that the glory of God left them, and that's why they now saw themselves as naked. Thoughts?

Not to derail your thread (as if that ever happens here ), but your post reminded me of that.
I heard that thought before as well. But there is absolutely no grounds for it. Sounds cool, though.
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When satan led Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit, their eyes were opened and they saw their nakedness that was always their state, but they never knew it before. And it led to shame.

But Paul prayed that our eyes be opened in Eph 1 to also see something that was always with s since our NEW CREATION, and it ENCOURAGES US! Paul said we have always had, since salvation, the same power that resurrected and enthroned Jesus upon us, and we just have not seen it!

Fruit of knowledge of good and evil versus fruit of Life!
Is this fulfilled eschatology vs partial preterism?
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Is this fulfilled eschatology vs partial preterism?
Not sure what you're asking.

Partial preterism is partially-fulfilled eschatology.
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Not sure what you're asking.

Partial preterism is partially-fulfilled eschatology.
The tree of life is eternal life after the resurrection, Rev 21 right?
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The tree of life is eternal life after the resurrection, Rev 21 right?
Sorry, Rev 22 is where we see the tree of life.
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The tree of life is eternal life after the resurrection, Rev 21 right?
Still not sure how you're asking about that in reference to fulfilled eschatology.

The tree of life is eternal life now. It is not a literal Tree, I believe. The tree lines both sides of the river of life, and Psalm 2 ties that in with us as trees planted by the waters whose fruit and leaves remain, while the fruit and leaves are emphasized in Rev 22 on the tree. It's all related to Ezekiel 47.
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