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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
We agree w/ most of this statement ... it is in the re-enactment theology that gets you guys in the biggest conodrums.
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2 Thessalonians 1:8
He will punish those who do not know God and do not
obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.2
1 Peter 4:17
For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who
do not obey the gospel of God?
Jesus said:
Luke 6:46
KJV
46And
why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
47Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like:
48He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.
49But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.
Jesus said;
John 3:3-5
3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Jesus said;
Luke 24:46-48
46And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48And ye are witnesses of these things.
Act 22:16
Ananias said to Paul:
16And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
If baptism wasn't a part and parcel in the new birth, why were men commanded to be re-baptised.
And after people had spoken with tongues they were still commanded to be baptised.
Acts 2: Jews were baptised
Acts 8: Samaritans were baptised
Acts 10: Gentiles
Acts 19: the Ephesians
Four groups of people recieving salvation in the book of Acts, every one of them being baptised.
Acts 8: Eunuch baptised
Acts 9: Saul
Acts 16 Lydia
Acts 16 Jailer (so important they didn't wait till daylight to baptise him)
In every account of someone being saved.. all were baptised in the name of Jesus...
Jesus' great commission was:
Mark:
15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned
(if you don't believe you obviously won't be baptised)
Acts 2:41
41Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
No re-enactment... just obedience.
We know what we must do because Jesus made it clear and the apostles patterned it for us...
We know we identify (what you call re-enacting) with the gospel of Jesus' death, buriel and ressurection in such a way, because the apostles taught that if we are buried with Christ in baptism we have put on Christ...
I wouldn't call it re-enacting at all... and I'm not in any conodrum.