POTUS, Comey and TapeGate

[n david]

""James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!""

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...07411132649473

That was a 5AM tweet from Dear Leader on May 12th, after news broke that the Senate Intelligence Committee invited Comey to speak at a closed hearing tomorrow. Comey declined appearing in a closed hearing. Comey reportedly wants a public hearing because he wants his testimony heard by the public and not have bits and pieces leaked to the press from both sides of the aisle.

Back to the tweet: First, the WH objected to the tweet being viewed as some sort of threat, which is laughable. How is that not considered a threat? Call it a "warning" or whatever you want, POTUS just publicly tried to silence the only source who could publicly say whether or not POTUS is a liar.

POTUS claims that, not once, but "three times" Comey voluntarily told Trump that Trump was not being investigated. Now that members of Congress are lining up to invite Comey to speak to their committees, POTUS is scared, because he knows Comey knows the truth.

I don't believe for a second that Comey told POTUS this. Trump is a known and habitual liar. He lied over and over during the Primary campaign and even during the campaign against Clinton.

So that brings us to the threat of these Nixon-like Oval Office tapes. Schumer today warned the WH not to destroy any tapes and that doing so was a violation of the law. Other members of congress, including GOP members, have called on the WH to release the tapes if there are any.

This morning Sean Spicer refused to allow any question about the tapes. Any question regarding the tapes was ignored and Spicer went on to the next question. Too bad the press didn't just unite and either leave the room or refuse to ask another question until Spicer answered about the tapes.

I don't believe there are any tapes. Again, Trump is a known liar and he's a serial bluffer. The man has nothing. He's all talk and no substance. We're seeing proof of this as he has failed to deliver on promise after promise made during the campaign.

Now, if there are any audio recordings, the WH could well deny the existence of any "tapes," as such, and be telling the truth. Schumer and other members should drop the "tapes" label and start pursuing "audio recording files" from the WH. Any recording in the Oval Office would be done using digital recording equipment, not a Nixon-era tape recorder.

POTUS needs to stop the threats, the lies, the bluffing, and the tantrums. He needs to stop being a 2 year old and start acting Presidential.

2020 seems a long time from now, but I hope it passes quickly. And I hope Amash or another conservative mounts a campaign against Trump. I'd like to vote for POTUS in 2020, but I will continue to refuse to vote for this imbecile if no one challenges him.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

""James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!""

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...07411132649473

That was a 5AM tweet from Dear Leader on May 12th, after news broke that the Senate Intelligence Committee invited Comey to speak at a closed hearing tomorrow. Comey declined appearing in a closed hearing. Comey reportedly wants a public hearing because he wants his testimony heard by the public and not have bits and pieces leaked to the press from both sides of the aisle.

Back to the tweet: First, the WH objected to the tweet being viewed as some sort of threat, which is laughable. How is that not considered a threat? Call it a "warning" or whatever you want, POTUS just publicly tried to silence the only source who could publicly say whether or not POTUS is a liar.

POTUS claims that, not once, but "three times" Comey voluntarily told Trump that Trump was not being investigated. Now that members of Congress are lining up to invite Comey to speak to their committees, POTUS is scared, because he knows Comey knows the truth.

I don't believe for a second that Comey told POTUS this. Trump is a known and habitual liar. He lied over and over during the Primary campaign and even during the campaign against Clinton.

So that brings us to the threat of these Nixon-like Oval Office tapes. Schumer today warned the WH not to destroy any tapes and that doing so was a violation of the law. Other members of congress, including GOP members, have called on the WH to release the tapes if there are any.

This morning Sean Spicer refused to allow any question about the tapes. Any question regarding the tapes was ignored and Spicer went on to the next question. Too bad the press didn't just unite and either leave the room or refuse to ask another question until Spicer answered about the tapes.

I don't believe there are any tapes. Again, Trump is a known liar and he's a serial bluffer. The man has nothing. He's all talk and no substance. We're seeing proof of this as he has failed to deliver on promise after promise made during the campaign.

Now, if there are any audio recordings, the WH could well deny the existence of any "tapes," as such, and be telling the truth. Schumer and other members should drop the "tapes" label and start pursuing "audio recording files" from the WH. Any recording in the Oval Office would be done using digital recording equipment, not a Nixon-era tape recorder.

POTUS needs to stop the threats, the lies, the bluffing, and the tantrums. He needs to stop being a 2 year old and start acting Presidential.

2020 seems a long time from now, but I hope it passes quickly. And I hope Amash or another conservative mounts a campaign against Trump. I'd like to vote for POTUS in 2020, but I will continue to refuse to vote for this imbecile if no one challenges him.

But he's the poster child of what it means to be Republican. And conservative Christians adore him. Why are you breaking ranks? lol

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

But he's the poster child of what it means to be Republican. And conservative Christians adore him. Why are you breaking ranks? lol

No, he's not the poster child for the GOP. He was liberal and donated to liberals most of his life. His kids are still registered Democrats (though they may have changed since his election).

Christians have a nasty habit of being gullible and believing what they're promised by politicians.

David Kuo wrote a book, "Tempting Faith," in which he wrote about the W administration's faith based initiatives.

"""He says some of the nation’s most prominent evangelical leaders were known in the office of presidential political strategist Karl Rove as “the nuts.”

“National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ‘ridiculous,’ ‘out of control,’ and just plain ‘goofy,’” Kuo writes."""

I'm not breaking ranks now. I was a #NeverTrump'er during the campaign.

The only good thing Trump has done was to nominate and have SCOTUS Justice Gorsuch confirmed. Of course, time will tell if Gorsuch will be a Scalia or a Kennedy.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

No, he's not the poster child for the GOP. He was liberal and donated to liberals most of his life. His kids are still registered Democrats (though they may have changed since his election).

Christians have a nasty habit of being gullible and believing what they're promised by politicians.

David Kuo wrote a book, "Tempting Faith," in which he wrote about the W administration's faith based initiatives.

"""He says some of the nation’s most prominent evangelical leaders were known in the office of presidential political strategist Karl Rove as “the nuts.”

“National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ‘ridiculous,’ ‘out of control,’ and just plain ‘goofy,’” Kuo writes."""

I'm not breaking ranks now. I was a #NeverTrump'er during the campaign.

The only good thing Trump has done was to nominate and have SCOTUS Justice Gorsuch confirmed. Of course, time will tell if Gorsuch will be a Scalia or a Kennedy.

Why do you believe Gorsuch was a good pick?
What do you expect from Gorsuch?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Why do you believe Gorsuch was a good pick?
What do you expect from Gorsuch?

His rulings are encouraging, and he actually tracks more conservative than even Scalia. His defense of religious liberty, executive authority, separation of powers, etc.

What gives me pause is where he attends church. Gorsuch's "Pastor" "Rev." Susan Springer is a liberal democrat who attended the anti-Trump women's march a few months ago. She's vocally pro-gay marriage and the church itself is notably liberal and lgbt friendly.

With the likelihood that SCOTUS will hear cases relating to religious freedom and lgbt, we'll have to see how much influence Springer had on Gorsuch.

Interesting note: Gorsuch has served as an usher several times at the church, and his wife has lead the church prayer group.

[n david]

New crisis of the day for the WH: Comey allegedly wrote a memo detailing a conversation with Trump in the Oval in which Trump asked Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn.

Chaffetz already has published a statement that he has a subpoena ready and wants that memo. More members of Congress now calling for Comey to testify before Congress on the issues which have sprung up regarding the investigation, the firing and alleged audio recordings.

Can we just have one day ... ONE DAY ... without some crisis over something Trump tweeted or said or did?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

New crisis of the day for the WH: Comey allegedly wrote a memo detailing a conversation with Trump in the Oval in which Trump asked Comey to drop the investigation into Flynn.

Chaffetz already has published a statement that he has a subpoena ready and wants that memo. More members of Congress now calling for Comey to testify before Congress on the issues which have sprung up regarding the investigation, the firing and alleged audio recordings.

Can we just have one day ... ONE DAY ... without some crisis over something Trump tweeted or said or did?

What does it matter if Trump did ask Comey to end the investigation? That's not a crime. If he did ask, it's because the investigation is based on nothing. The daily "crisis" are invented by the press. What we should be focusing on his how to lock away for life most of the Democrats in Congress along with the RINO's.

[Evang.Benincasa]

TapeGate?

What happened to PizzaGate?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Originalist

What does it matter if Trump did ask Comey to end the investigation? That's not a crime. If he did ask, it's because the investigation is based on nothing. The daily "crisis" are invented by the press. What we should be focusing on his how to lock away for life most of the Democrats in Congress along with the RINO's.

We don't know what the investigation of Flynn will show. It may not be illegal for the POTUS to simply ask, but it's a gray line and when the POTUS later fires the guy who refused to stop the investigation, that's when it becomes a problem.

You cannot honestly say that you would have been okay had obama asked Comey to end the FBI investigation of Hillary.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

TapeGate?

What happened to PizzaGate?

Forget Tapegate or Pizza Gate, what happened to RussiaGate?