Bishop Ellis and Ariana Grande

Jito463 · #1 09-02-2018, 12:06 AM

So, how many have heard about Bishop Ellis and his "accidental" inappropriate touching of Ariana Grande? He apologized for it, but having seen the video, I suspect that it was not an accident. In my opinion the PAW needs to have him step down as bishop, even if just temporarily while they investigate the situation.

If you ask me, the funeral should never have taken place there to begin with. It had nothing to do with promoting the Gospel, and everything to do with drawing media attention to them (him?). Unfortunately for him, it's now drawn the wrong kind of attention.

There was an additional grievance about a joke he made, but the joke was harmless in my opinion (he joked about her name sounding like an item on the Taco Bell menu).

Jito463 · #2 09-02-2018, 12:11 AM

As an addendum to the disgrace that was this funeral, Louis Farrakhan was allowed to attend. I can't understand how Bishop Ellis thought it would be a good idea to allow that racist into his church. Then again, he allowed known sex offender BJ Clinton in, so who knows what was going through his head.

Esaias · #3 09-02-2018, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jito463

As an addendum to the disgrace that was this funeral, Louis Farrakhan was allowed to attend. I can't understand how Bishop Ellis thought it would be a good idea to allow that racist into his church. Then again, he allowed known sex offender BJ Clinton in, so who knows what was going through his head.

You can't understand? Really? Its because none of these people are real, they are all fakes, charlatans, and frauds. Farrakhan and his minions routinely speak at black churches. So do "Reverend" Jesse Jackson and "Reverend" Al Sharpton. It's all a show, it's all about the bling and the power. Morals, ethics, religion, aren't even on the radar with these people.

Jito463 · #4 09-02-2018, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

You can't understand? Really? Its because none of these people are real, they are all fakes, charlatans, and frauds. Farrakhan and his minions routinely speak at black churches. So do "Reverend" Jesse Jackson and "Reverend" Al Sharpton. It's all a show, it's all about the bling and the power. Morals, ethics, religion, aren't even on the radar with these people.

Oh, I agree completely about Farrakhan, Jackson and Sharpton, I guess I just expected more from the presiding head of the second largest OP organization.

Evang.Benincasa · #5 09-02-2018, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jito463

As an addendum to the disgrace that was this funeral, Louis Farrakhan was allowed to attend. I can't understand how Bishop Ellis thought it would be a good idea to allow that racist into his church. Then again, he allowed known sex offender BJ Clinton in, so who knows what was going through his head.

That's because you define him as you are. You are looking at labels as if those who hold them are actually credible representations of their titles. Game over, we need to stop chanting "romper, stomper, bomper boo. Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic Mirror, tell me today, did all my friends have fun at play?" We really and honestly need to put magic thinking away, and fully understand that there is no one celebrity, politician, or popular mainstream religious leader who is legit. They don't care about you, you are the rank and file. You are the huddled masses , clawing for breath, begging, and constantly squealing. So, they entertain you you with the circus maximus, the carnival, a traveling troupe of ministerials, and sideshow freaks. Bread and circuses, while we are all distracted, they rule through fear. We are living in the dark ages, where people believed there are giants, and the earth is flat. We are shocked when a reprobate gropes are high priced singing prostitute? Seriously? Yet, all we can do is ask if they are Apostolic? Are they Apostolic? Are they POST TRIB!!!! Have we lost our ever loving minds? Labels, labels without content is fraud. How on earth are you supposed to fight the devil with that sort of shallow baloney?

Aquila · #6 09-04-2018, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's because you define him as you are. You are looking at labels as if those who hold them are actually credible representations of their titles. Game over, we need to stop chanting "romper, stomper, bomper boo. Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic Mirror, tell me today, did all my friends have fun at play?" We really and honestly need to put magic thinking away, and fully understand that there is no one celebrity, politician, or popular mainstream religious leader who is legit. They don't care about you, you are the rank and file. You are the huddled masses , clawing for breath, begging, and constantly squealing. So, they entertain you you with the circus maximus, the carnival, a traveling troupe of ministerials, and sideshow freaks. Bread and circuses, while we are all distracted, they rule through fear. We are living in the dark ages, where people believed there are giants, and the earth is flat. We are shocked when a reprobate gropes are high priced singing prostitute? Seriously? Yet, all we can do is ask if they are Apostolic? Are they Apostolic? Are they POST TRIB!!!! Have we lost our ever loving minds? Labels, labels without content is fraud. How on earth are you supposed to fight the devil with that sort of shallow baloney?

You nailed it and said exactly what I was thinking. It was a circus.

Michael The Disciple · #7 09-02-2018, 05:19 AM

Horrific,

He is "Apostolic"?

Amanah · #8 09-02-2018, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Horrific,

He is "Apostolic"?

Charles H. Ellis III (born July 8, 1958) is an American Apostolic Pentecostal preacher and the former Presiding Bishop of the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World. He is the pastor of the Greater Grace Temple, a megachurch in Detroit, Michigan. He is also the son of Michigan preacher and civic leader, Bishop David L. Ellis, Sr.

In July 2010, the 1.3 million-member Pentecostal Assemblies of the World (P.A.W.) elected Bishop Ellis to the office of Presiding Bishop, making him the 10th elected person to the highest position in the world’s oldest Apostolic organization. Bishop Ellis also specifically presides over the Diocese of South Carolina in which he personally oversees nearly 45 PAW churches. Bishop Ellis brings the message of God’s love to a potential 50 million viewers across the nation on “The Word Network” and other television and radio outlets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Ellis_III

Michael The Disciple · #9 09-02-2018, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

Charles H. Ellis III (born July 8, 1958) is an American Apostolic Pentecostal preacher and the former Presiding Bishop of the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World. He is the pastor of the Greater Grace Temple, a megachurch in Detroit, Michigan. He is also the son of Michigan preacher and civic leader, Bishop David L. Ellis, Sr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_H._Ellis_III

Presiding Bishop? Sounds like he was the LEADER of the entire Denomination.

Does this mean Aretha Franklin was Apostolic?

Amanah · #10 09-02-2018, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Presiding Bishop? Sounds like he was the LEADER of the entire Denomination.

Does this mean Aretha Franklin was Apostolic?

In July 2010, the 1.3 million-member Pentecostal Assemblies of the World (P.A.W.) elected Bishop Ellis to the office of Presiding Bishop, making him the 10th elected person to the highest position in the world’s oldest Apostolic organization. Bishop Ellis also specifically presides over the Diocese of South Carolina in which he personally oversees nearly 45 PAW churches. Bishop Ellis brings the message of God’s love to a potential 50 million viewers across the nation on “The Word Network” and other television and radio outlets.