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Old 07-18-2008, 10:10 PM
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Nor does it have one on pants on a woman.

Clear ... objections to TV however.
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Hey, imagine that. The UPC has NO WRITTEN statement on either of those. Reckon that solves that.
Which is great. But I was looking at the broader discussion as well. How many men on the General Board would feel free to come into the winter meetings with a beard? If word got out that any of them even allowed such a thing in their churches they would be castigated for not having a "clean church" and politically isolated.

It may not be written, but the social stigmas don't even allow for a discussion of these issues at anything like the GB level. And so, I would ask: why?
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Which is great. But I was looking at the broader discussion as well. How many men on the General Board would feel free to come into the winter meetings with a beard? If word got out that any of them even allowed such a thing in their churches they would be castigated for not having a "clean church" and politically isolated.

It may not be written, but the social stigmas don't even allow for a discussion of these issues at anything like the GB level. And so, I would ask: why?
I don't know... the mindset on this is rapidly changing.
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I don't know... the mindset on this is rapidly changing.
Rapidly? Interesting word.
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That the income statements of all UPCI churches are published and distributed to each member in good standing on an annual basis, whether or not they tithe.

This one made me chuckle. I have never known to many churches, UPCI or otherwise, who looked at someone as "in good standing" if they did not pay tithes. The only ones that would come to my mind are the independents that teach tithing as not required.
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Rapidly? Interesting word.
Well then you tell me, how many do you know that would castigate a Brother for having a beard, and go so far as to say he doesn't have a "clean church" ?? Twenty or even ten years ago perhaps... but today most have abandoned such judgment.

I could be wrong but I hope (and pray) I am not!
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Well then you tell me, how many do you know that would castigate a Brother for having a beard, and go so far as to say he doesn't have a "clean church" ?? Twenty or even ten years ago perhaps... but today most have abandoned such judgment.

I could be wrong but I hope (and pray) I am not!
I sense that there had some a general trend toward lighting up on some of the non-Biblical standards, until the WPF thing came along. Since then there has been something of a bandwagon going around making the same noises that were made back in the 70's. It's depressing, really.

Just when things start to get back to the Bible, all we like sheep have to stray into judgmentalism and sin.
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is there a petition to stop this petition?

is there a petition to call this petition really stupid?

I will gladly sign either of these.

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I sense that there had some a general trend toward lighting up on some of the non-Biblical standards, until the WPF thing came along. Since then there has been something of a bandwagon going around making the same noises that were made back in the 70's. It's depressing, really.

Just when things start to get back to the Bible, all we like sheep have to stray into judgmentalism and sin.
Back to the bible?
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