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Old 06-20-2013, 06:07 PM
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Re: Historical References Regarding 1st Cent. Bapt

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Didn't the early church also do nude baptisms?

I think the baptismal robes were added later...
Please do not tell anyone, this little secret fact might raise some eyebrows.
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Too many of those writings of those "Early Church Fathers" were "Corrected".
The Catholic church has admitted to it.
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Give examples. Not some book and page number, but the actual change the roman catholic sect has admitted to making. Quote it. Post it.
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Acts 2:38 is one. The name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, is Jesus. Would we assume they disobeyed Our Lord's command?

Would you, or anyone else for that matter, please reference where Jesus ever addressed HisFather and God as 'Jesus'

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Re: Historical References Regarding 1st Cent. Bapt

Would "I come in my Fathers Name"

Also what ever we do in word or deed do in the name of Jesus. this would be a command, yes?
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Would "I come in my Fathers Name"

Also what ever we do in word or deed do in the name of Jesus. this would be a command, yes?
No, that's not Jesus addressing His Father and God as 'Jesus'. Do you have scripture where Jesus was speaking to His Father and God and calling Him 'Jesus'?
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No, that's not Jesus addressing His Father and God as 'Jesus'. Do you have scripture where Jesus was speaking to His Father and God and calling Him 'Jesus'?

Can't say that I do. Not really sure what you are getting at. Are you saying the baptism in Jesus name is not an absolute?
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Can't say that I do. Not really sure what you are getting at. Are you saying the baptism in Jesus name is not an absolute?
What I'm getting at is that Jesus didn't address His God and Father as Jesus nor did Jesus address the Holy Ghost as Jesus. Not a single solitary time. There's no scripture for Jesus addressing anyone else as Jesus. There's only one Jesus and He had a God and Father who wasn't Jesus.
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What I'm getting at is that Jesus didn't address His God and Father as Jesus nor did Jesus address the Holy Ghost as Jesus. Not a single solitary time. There's no scripture for Jesus addressing anyone else as Jesus. There's only one Jesus and He had a God and Father who wasn't Jesus.
Interesting comment/post. Start a thread and see where it goes.
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Interesting comment/post. Start a thread and see where it goes.
I think it's related to this thread....which Jesus does one call upon in baptism, the one the Apostles called upon, the Son of God, or the Jesus which Jesus never addressed as Jesus (Jesus the Father or Jesus the Holy Ghost)?
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I think it's related to this thread....which Jesus does one call upon in baptism, the one the Apostles called upon, the Son of God, or the Jesus which Jesus never addressed as Jesus (Jesus the Father or Jesus the Holy Ghost)?
Maybe one should call upon the Jesus that Thomas called upon when he called him 'My Lord and my God'?
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