From what you explain, you understand that losing someone to marriage is normal. If that pastor "loves' these people so much he has to exert an abnormal and sick sense of control, to the point of ripping apart important relationships in his congregants lives and bringing them untold grief, that is a really sick and distorted sense of "love".
Why can you see the truth, that it is normal for people to leave for marriage but you want to defend the actions of a man who controls his people in this way?
Ya, people can be quite evil in the act of "loving" someone.
This reminds me of a UPC Pastor I heard about years ago. For years and years this guy was said to be manipulative and controlling. Yet there were families who attended there for years who refused to believe this guy was anything but a "man of God." I'd talk with a couple friends who experienced issues with the Pastor, then had another friend who denied it all.
That is, until they did something to upset him and found their family being abused and humiliated like the others before them. Of course, it didn't take them long to realize their error and get out of Dodge.
40 years. And "this is NOT the first time he has done such a thing."
It's disgusting that a few Pastors are still stuck in their racially segregated ways; and it's upsetting to hear of fear, abuse and manipulation being used against congregants.
But even sadder to me are those who see this kind of behavior over and over again and refuse to leave or do anything about it until something happens to them personally.
40 years. It's terrible they had to experience this, but it's hard for me to feel too bad for them if what's written was true...."this is not the first time he has done such a thing."
Bingo.
I rarely get as upset at these types of pastors as I do the people who sit under them and continually take it. I know there is mental manipulation at work, just as there is with a woman who continually gets beat up by her boyfriend but stays with him because "I love him and know he is a good man!". Of course like you said there are those who will stick by such a man seeing what he does to others but not get upset until it actually happens to them.
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every decision we make in our relationships,we must be sure that we are truly acting in love FOR that individual..not just love,of what they do for us...
Well I do not believe that I ever said that you personally were a UPCI closet racist, maybe you misunderstood what I wrote.
What I believe is that perhaps there is a tinge of racism in a pastor not allowing a young woman in the congregation to marry a black man, of course there might be other reasons involved.
When I was a young man, I had black girlfriends, white girlfriends and Hispanic girlfriends nothing serious just playing the field. After many years I finally married.
i got what you said to me. it was pretty clear.
However, go back. I said that if you are a racist you are lost. (by "you", I meant the preacher in question who is refusing to be party to a bi-racial marriage)
Let me answer the question you asked me about my church. There are more black people than white people.
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