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Old 10-11-2019, 02:13 PM
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

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Anyone claiming Frank Ewart is the "founder of modern Oneness Pentecostalism" isn't qualified to discuss the subject, in my opinion. If Ewart was the founder then we're all in a Johnny come lately heretical cult.

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No wonder you get "trounced" by trins, you've surrendered before a shot ever gets fired.
I have NEVER said I get "trounced" by the Trins. I am attacked relentlessy and have been many times. I have never given ground to the Trins. They attempt to make me look foolish on the Greek, which would not be hard to to since I dont know it.

I dont try to argue Greek with them except if it something I have already confirmed.
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I have NEVER said I get "trounced" by the Trins. I am attacked relentlessy and have been many times. I have never given ground to the Trins. They attempt to make me look foolish on the Greek, which would not be hard to to since I dont know it.

I dont try to argue Greek with them except if it something I have already confirmed.
I think you missed my point.
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It is an established fact that Ewart was the ringleader of the Oneness faction of the Assembles Of God where the doctrine of Oneness Pentecostalism began in our time . He began preaching the full message, Oneness and Acts 2:38 in 1914.

If you can produce DOCUMENTATION of anyone preaching this combination together from the time of the early Church before then produce it. I would be happy to see it.

I dont follow man but I do acknowledge when a man teaches truth.

I dont doubt that there have been groups teaching it here and there over the centuries but I have never seen it DOCUMENTED. Yes men taught Oneness. Others taught baptism in Jesus name. Others taught tongues as the evidence.

I know of none who taught these things as a new birth package.
Dude. Please. Read this carefully:

I HAVE POSTED DOCUMENTATION FROM THE EARLY 1900S AND EVEN EARLIER THAT THERE WERE PENTECOSTALS BAPTISING IN JESUS' NAME BELIEVING IN THE NEW BIRTH OF WATER AND SPIRIT AND BELIEVING WHAT WE NOW GENERALLY CALL "ONENESS" LONG BEFORE ARROYO SECO, THE AOG, EVEN BEFORE AZUSA STREET.

BUT I REFUSE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK FOR YOU. Use the search function.
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Re: Logos Doctrine And The UPC

Getting back to the subject at hand.

This is like the third Logos thread and like the previous ones it lacks any Scriptural documentation showing the Word was created, begotten, or made.

Contra that claim, I assert the following:

God is uncreated, not made, not begotten.

The Word was God.

Therefore, the Word was uncreated, not made, not begotten.

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Who is Mark August?
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Bernard is not "plan/thought only". He leans more towards Mike Conn's view.
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Who is Mike Conn?
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Most of the midwest preachers are twosees!

They believe in the Eternal Father God and the God Son heresy.
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Most of the midwest preachers are twosees!

They believe in the Eternal Father God and the God Son heresy.
Aren't you the guy who denies that Jesus is the Son of God?
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aren't you the guy who denies that jesus is the son of god?

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