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Old 03-19-2019, 09:58 PM
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Luke 16:19-31


In Luke 16:19-31 we read about the rich man who died and went to Hades, while a poor man named Lazarus died and went to Abraham’s side. The rich man asked Abraham to allow Lazarus to bring him a drop of water to cool his tongue. Abraham tells the rich man that it is impossible for Lazarus to cross into Hades.

The rich man then asks Abraham to send Lazarus to his father’s house to warn his brothers not to go to Hades. Abraham tells him that if they will not believe Moses and the prophets -they would not believe a man risen from the dead.

I have some incomplete thoughts here. Feedback welcome.

Going over the text tonight I thought maybe the rich man represents the Pharisees. Not necessarily rich in goods, though they probably were. They were rich because they had the law and the prophets.

Lazarus represents those under the Pharisees... care.

The brothers, also Pharisees, did not believe Moses and the prophets. They also would not believe if someone was risen from the dead, Jesus Christ.


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Lazarus in the parable is Lazarus, Mary and Martha's brother. (Very likely he is also known as Simon the leper.)

The rich man is the high priest Caiaphas, who had five brothers-in-law who also previously served as priests.

None of them would get right with God even if Lazarus rose from the dead. When Lazarus did in fact rise from the dead, Caiaphas and the "chief priests" sought to have him (Lazarus) killed to stop the spread of his testimony, which was causing people to flock to Jesus.
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Lazarus in the parable is Lazarus, Mary and Martha's brother. (Very likely he is also known as Simon the leper.)

The rich man is the high priest Caiaphas, who had five brothers-in-law who also previously served as priests.

None of them would get right with God even if Lazarus rose from the dead. When Lazarus did in fact rise from the dead, Caiaphas and the "chief priests" sought to have him (Lazarus) killed to stop the spread of his testimony, which was causing people to flock to Jesus.
This is very interesting. I can honestly say I have never heard anything along these lines before.
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This is very interesting. I can honestly say I have never heard anything along these lines before.
Brother Esaias' words are excellent!

To the first century Judean the parable was a jab to the Judean high priest aristocracy. While the poor man Lazarus (a Greek transliteration of Eliezer) represents Eliezer servant of Abraham. The Gentile from Damascus should of received the inheritance from father Abraham. Instead Abraham's wife bares him a legitimate heir to his wealth and covenant. All the Judeans understood this, and saw that the Judean religious aristocrats were totally taken care of and never considered the Gentiles or the proselytes. Lazarus being raised from the dead wasn't only a miracle but symbolically represents Eliezer receiving the promise. The priesthood should of recognize Jesus, and accepted Him, but were blind. If they couldn't hear Moses (Torah) and the prophets (Tanakh) then how could they understand a resurrected Christ?

Even today, the Rabbinical Babylonian Talmudic Jewish Rabbis are blind to their Tanakh and cannot see the Christ.
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I don’t believe this is a parable at all but a real deal story.
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I don’t believe this is a parable at all but a real deal story.
Lay out the reasons.
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Lay out the reasons.
He called him a “ certain man “. Jesus never used that kind of discrimination is his parables ( that I can recall ) .
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He called him a “ certain man “. Jesus never used that kind of discrimination is his parables ( that I can recall ) .
Matthew 18:23, the Kingdom is like "a certain king".

Matthew 21:28 " A certain man had two sons..."

Matthew 21:33 "Hear another parable: There was a certain householder..."

Matthew 22:2 The Kingdom is like "a certain king..."

Mark 12:1 A certain man planted a vineyard...

Luke 7:41 There was a certain creditor...

Luke 10:30 A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves...v 31 "a certain priest"..., v 33 " a certain Samaritan.."

Luke 12:16 The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully...

Luke 13:6 He spake also this parable, A certain man had a fig tree planted...

Luke 14:16 A certain man made a great supper...

Luke 16:1 There was a certain rich man which had a steward...

Luke 16:9 (SAME CONVERSATION) There was a certain rich man which was clothed in purple...
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Matthew 18:23, the Kingdom is like "a certain king".

Matthew 21:28 " A certain man had two sons..."

Matthew 21:33 "Hear another parable: There was a certain householder..."

Matthew 22:2 The Kingdom is like "a certain king..."

Mark 12:1 A certain man planted a vineyard...

Luke 7:41 There was a certain creditor...

Luke 10:30 A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves...v 31 "a certain priest"..., v 33 " a certain Samaritan.."

Luke 12:16 The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully...

Luke 13:6 He spake also this parable, A certain man had a fig tree planted...

Luke 14:16 A certain man made a great supper...

Luke 16:1 There was a certain rich man which had a steward...

Luke 16:9 (SAME CONVERSATION) There was a certain rich man which was clothed in purple...
I suppose that is fairly definitive.
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