Rockets hitting Jerusalem

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Originally Posted by kenj

As I've already pointed out Israel killed 200 Palestinians before the Palestinians managed to kill even one Israeli.
It is clear to anyone who is not morally blind just who is the victim and who the victimizer.

Really? And Israel fired on Gaza first or for no reason? Israel has good military if they can sustain only one death against all the rockets coming into Israel from Gaza.

And, BTW, today two American IDF soldiers along with 11 Israeli soldiers were killed in Gaza.

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Originally Posted by kenj

As I've already pointed out Israel killed 200 Palestinians before the Palestinians managed to kill even one Israeli.
It is clear to anyone who is not morally blind just who is the victim and who the victimizer.


And, while we're at it, are there any Christians here?
If so, listen to what Jesus says:

"If you were the children of Abraham, you would do like Abraham did."

So how did Abraham do? Did he kill anyone and steal their land and property? .

Jesus was talking about imitating Abraham's faith and obedience. He isn't talking about laying down and letting rockets destroy Israel and it's inhabitants. How ridiculous is that idea and what logic can there be in that?

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Originally Posted by TJJJ

Do some realize that the Jews hate Christians almost as much as a muslim hates a Christian.

Jews will attack and have attacked Christians in Palistine frequently.

The love affair that Christians have with Jews is beyond my comprehension.

So you believe Jews target Christians in Palestine because they are Christians?

I wonder how many Christians in Israel get attacked...

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ya, i had that--quickly getting over it. they are, on the whole, a bit more heinous than Christians, imo. I have been homeless in all three nations; give me Muslims anytime. But, all your yakking about Hamas aside, Chomsky's quote still has not been addressed, i notice--because an attempt to do so would be comedy. General Smedley Butler said it best--we're there strictly for dollars and cents.

That is the problem. That is exactly my point.

Peace will never happen as long as the only finger pointing is aimed at Israel

How can you address a quote? I can quote someone saying just about anything

Do you dispute that Hamas puts Rocket launchers in population areas and launches Rockets at Israel?

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Originally Posted by kenj

As I've already pointed out Israel killed 200 Palestinians before the Palestinians managed to kill even one Israeli.
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Let me ask you a question. If you were at home with a wife and several young children and you had a gun and someone broke into your home...would you wait until that person shot your kids and wife before shooting?

Or would you shoot BEFORE hand to prevent him from harming your family??

You see, your example is simply irrational

Hamas fires rockets INTO Israeli populated areas. Israel has been able to shoot many down and Hamas is inept enough to just not be good enough to have hurt a lot of Israelis BUT They are TRYING ANYWAYS

What if Israel were not able to block those rockets? Some rockets have actually gotten through and again Israel spends a lot of money on shelters and a warning system

What does Hamas do? Dig tunnels and make more rockets. In fact when Israel warns them they are going to strike Hamas tells them to STAY

Israel tells it's citizens to take cover. Hamas tells theirs to stay and die.

No nation anywhere would be irresponsible enough to NOT try to protect it's citizens from those rocket attacks.

As I said before, Wars are never supposed to be even. Every side tries their best to beat the mess out of the enemy while protecting their troops.

This idea that it has to be equal is baloney born out of insanity

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If a group of thugs invade my home and I shoot all of them before they can harm my family, are they the victim because more of them were shot?


BTW those dead Palestinians are the victims of Hamas's policies to Rocket attack Israel, not spend money on shelter, put those Rockets in populated areas and tell them NOT to vacate areas they have been told is about to be bombed

[shazeep]

unfortunately, the only way your parable makes sense is with the Jews as the thugs, so...

[n david]

Originally Posted by kenj

As I've already pointed out Israel killed 200 Palestinians before the Palestinians managed to kill even one Israeli.
It is clear to anyone who is not morally blind just who is the victim and who the victimizer.

That statement is just absurd. How is Israel a victimizer for protecting herself? How is Hamas a victim when they started this mess. And why do you hate Israel?

1) It's not the Palestinians who are firing rockets, it's Hamas. The Palestinians are unfortunately caught in the middle.

2) Are you suggesting that just because Hamas has bad aim and most of the rockets have either exploded in open areas or were shot down, that they're the victim?

3) Hamas started the conflict by kidnapping and killing 3 Israel teenagers, then started firing rockets first after a Palestinian kid was killed. And remember, the person who killed the Palestinian kid was arrested and the act was widely condemned by Israeli leaders.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

unfortunately, the only way your parable makes sense is with the Jews as the thugs, so...

It appears you are utterly unable to comprehend that a sovereign nation under attack by a criminal regime might strike back.

[n david]

Shazz, Kenj -- Is Hamas a terrorist organization bent on the destruction of Israel?

You've both appeared to stick up for Hamas, labeling them some sort of victim. I'm trying to understand how anyone could defend this organization.

They don't even have support from other middle eastern countries like Egypt, and others who are against Israel.