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Old 12-09-2020, 10:14 AM
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Re: The United States NEEDS to Repent or Die.

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Because apparently with some in the church realm, America is the only nation founded on biblical principles. So, seeing the way America has become it really only has 2 options, repent or die.

Even though concerning Sodom and Gomorrah, the Lord would’ve spared the city for 10 souls. Maybe some of us need a relationship like Abraham had.

Or....

It’s Gods intention to judge this nation, and will raise another nation. Either way, the church will be shadowed by the wings of the almighty.
Eh, surprisingly we were started on the principles of the Illuminati.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:32 AM
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That can be said of any nation on the planet. Why is the USA singled out for this kind of statement?
On the one hand, you are a Christian.

On the other hand, you are an American, you love America, you're a patriot.

On the third hand you seem intent on keeping God and the Bible as far away from "saving the republic" as possible, except for some real basic lip service.

So, I'd say you are the literal poster child for what I've been saying for awhile now, to which you have repeatedly objected. Yet you keep proving my point for me.

So my conclusion to the whole mess?

A hard rain's a gonna fall. And a whole lot of people are gonna suffer, needlessly, simply because they just will not get right with God. And no, these aren't the lefties I'm talking about. It's the MAGA crowd.

I also have hope that a remnant is figuring this out, and THEY will the be ones who actually get something substantive done over the next couple decades.

And folks like YOU will likely, sadly, be first in line to oppose them and call for their being GITMOed.
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Because apparently with some in the church realm, America is the only nation founded on biblical principles. So, seeing the way America has become it really only has 2 options, repent or die.

Even though concerning Sodom and Gomorrah, the Lord would’ve spared the city for 10 souls. Maybe some of us need a relationship like Abraham had.

Or....

It’s Gods intention to judge this nation, and will raise another nation. Either way, the church will be shadowed by the wings of the almighty.
America actually was founded on Biblical principles. Our foundation of law and jurisprudence is the common law, based on Anglo-Saxon-Norman common law, which was and is based on the Bible applied to society.

The Masonic influence was largely in the form of getting the Articles of Confederation amended in favor of the Constitution which included certain little "hickies" that have allowed masonic type groups to control and dominate both the federal government and the state governments.

Patrick Henry smelled a rat, and he was right. And so here we are.

We've always had problems as a nation. But, it is undeniably clear that as we have moved further away from Biblical principles, we have become increasingly strained and buffeted with dilemmas and problems of constantly increasing significance and constantly decreasing solutions.

Also, you are still confusing "country" with "nation" and are intermingling modern concepts of nation-state and nationhood with Biblical concepts of nationhood.
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Re: The United States NEEDS to Repent or Die.

About Sodom and Gomorrah. God would not have spared the cities of the plain for the sake of ten righteous people living there. Rather, He would have spared them for the sake of Abraham's intercession on the basis of ten righteous being there.

Abraham's intercession was key.

Is anyone interceding for America?

We surely ought to be.
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On the one hand, you are a Christian.

On the other hand, you are an American, you love America, you're a patriot.

On the third hand you seem intent on keeping God and the Bible as far away from "saving the republic" as possible, except for some real basic lip service.

So, I'd say you are the literal poster child for what I've been saying for awhile now, to which you have repeatedly objected. Yet you keep proving my point for me.

So my conclusion to the whole mess?

A hard rain's a gonna fall. And a whole lot of people are gonna suffer, needlessly, simply because they just will not get right with God. And no, these aren't the lefties I'm talking about. It's the MAGA crowd.

I also have hope that a remnant is figuring this out, and THEY will the be ones who actually get something substantive done over the next couple decades.

And folks like YOU will likely, sadly, be first in line to oppose them and call for their being GITMOed.
Sobering post indeed.
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Re: The United States NEEDS to Repent or Die.

Intercession isn't going to come from a worldly, entertainment saturated heart. I miss the pre-service prayer, lost in the Spirit worship, and hard preaching that shook me to the core of my youth. I feel like I'm trudging through mud trying to find my way back.
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Re: The United States NEEDS to Repent or Die.

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About Sodom and Gomorrah. God would not have spared the cities of the plain for the sake of ten righteous people living there. Rather, He would have spared them for the sake of Abraham's intercession on the basis of ten righteous being there.

Abraham's intercession was key.

Is anyone interceding for America?

We surely ought to be.
Agree. Thats why I mentioned having a relationship that Abraham had.
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Intercession isn't going to come from a worldly, entertainment saturated heart. I miss the pre-service prayer, lost in the Spirit worship, and hard preaching that shook me to the core of my youth. I feel like I'm trudging through mud trying to find my way back.
I understand what you’re saying.

You know I remember and still to this day have heard, preachers and saints alike speak of the fact that, “when the schools stop prayer, God left”. IMO, I dont think so. Schools should not be in charge of having your kids pray. The government should not have the responsibility to teach you or your family about God.

Us as parents should be teaching our kids to pray, we should be teaching our kids about the Spirit, not the USA government. IMO its not about the mass slaughter of innocent unborn children, its not about a country or nation that massively repents, its about the church getting back to the place where the Spirit can move. Maybe I’m wrong, yet I’m not looking for the nation to repent, I’m looking for the church to move deeper in the Spirit.
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My first Pastor mandated home school or church school as a heaven or hell issue.

And yes, let's press deeper in the Spirit.

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My first Pastor mandated home school or church school as a heaven or hell issue.

And yes, let's press deeper in the Spirit.
Sounds like he knew the score.
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