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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
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Just as the title says? Is it good to have fear of it? Would it help anything in our lives to be better or opposite? Or does it scare people away? Just asking?
Just being specific. Talking about the torments, sulfer etc, what the bible explains it to be?Weeping and knashing of teeth. I mean Jesus himself taught about hell, so what about us?
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Christians don't need to fear hell. Hell is not for Christians. It's for sinners. Preach it to the sinners. Law to the proud, grace to the humble. Tell them of their reward, be it heaven or hell
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08-25-2010, 01:33 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
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Just as the title says? Is it good to have fear of it? Would it help anything in our lives to be better or opposite? Or does it scare people away? Just asking?
Just being specific. Talking about the torments, sulfer etc, what the bible explains it to be?Weeping and knashing of teeth. I mean Jesus himself taught about hell, so what about us?
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Which hell? There are three in the NT you know.
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08-25-2010, 01:53 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
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I was thinking of the same verses -
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jude 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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08-25-2010, 02:18 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
Jesus taught more on hell than heaven. Why? Because He wants to do all He can to get you to not go there.
This society has more evil in games, movies, etc and now I hear we "fear" talking about hell. Right! Who fears that?
Should our relationship with God be built on fear? NO!
God is love!
But you are doing a disservice to the people if you don't teach about Heaven and Hell. There are two destination for eternity, would be good to know about both.
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08-25-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
Hell of the New Testament is contaminated with countless questions that we can't answer. That leaves people with a decision to make. Is it even real in the sense of Eternal Damnation?
Eternal torment is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament, and, a majority of the Human Race has never heard of Eternal Hell. God sending the mainstream of Humankind into a pit of unending torture makes absolutely no sense. Also, since Jesus vehemently rebuked the Religious, or those claiming “Right” according to Scripture, this can leave even the Faithful in doubt, as we have seen the clarity of Religious disorder in every known Faith on Earth.
Going to Hell becomes a maddening Witch Hunt, using this “Heavy” to deal with those who disagree with our motive towards God. If they disobey, they go to Hell. If they obey, they go to Heaven.
Since no original Texts exists, and the Catholic Church has had bizarre and unethical dealings with the past writings of Scripture (New Testament documents are in Greek), this radical idea that God is going to burn people forever reeks with Religion gone mad.
Also, with Denominal Religion on this Earth that number over 30,000, people are so flooded with ideas and interpretations about Salvation, determining who will go there is beyond anyone’s ability to accurately give people the Truth. Hell is total, “Hit and Miss”. We can hardly do what’s right with what we see, let alone with what we can’t see.
Hell in the hands of humans is a catastrophe.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/He...e_Forever.html
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08-25-2010, 03:50 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
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absolutely people need to be warned of their destiny if they choose to obey not the gospel (imo)
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Amen, are we not glad someone cared enough to warn us we needed to be born again !
Ezekiel 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
Ezekiel 33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
As far as those who say what about those who never heard the gospel, well first of all I believe that if God saw that someone was hungry to know Him in Spirit and in truth that He would make a way for them to hear, and the Bible says that mankind will be without excuse.
Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
God does not want any to be lost, but it is up to each individual's free will choice to decide to obey the gospel and receive the salvation that God made possible.
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08-25-2010, 05:40 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
Hell is apparently going to suffer torment and death.....
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
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08-25-2010, 07:08 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
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Hell of the New Testament is contaminated with countless questions that we can't answer. That leaves people with a decision to make. Is it even real in the sense of Eternal Damnation?
Eternal torment is nowhere to be found in the Old Testament, and, a majority of the Human Race has never heard of Eternal Hell. God sending the mainstream of Humankind into a pit of unending torture makes absolutely no sense. Also, since Jesus vehemently rebuked the Religious, or those claiming “Right” according to Scripture, this can leave even the Faithful in doubt, as we have seen the clarity of Religious disorder in every known Faith on Earth.
Going to Hell becomes a maddening Witch Hunt, using this “Heavy” to deal with those who disagree with our motive towards God. If they disobey, they go to Hell. If they obey, they go to Heaven.
Since no original Texts exists, and the Catholic Church has had bizarre and unethical dealings with the past writings of Scripture (New Testament documents are in Greek), this radical idea that God is going to burn people forever reeks with Religion gone mad.
Also, with Denominal Religion on this Earth that number over 30,000, people are so flooded with ideas and interpretations about Salvation, determining who will go there is beyond anyone’s ability to accurately give people the Truth. Hell is total, “Hit and Miss”. We can hardly do what’s right with what we see, let alone with what we can’t see.
Hell in the hands of humans is a catastrophe.
http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/He...e_Forever.html
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This is exactly what satan wants to be taught to the Churches. Forget about Hell. Forget about "without holiness no one shall see the Lord". Be religous and "be nice".
Strong teaching in scripture is fairy tales!
satan is well please NFS.
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08-25-2010, 07:15 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
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Christians don't need to fear hell. Hell is not for Christians. It's for sinners. Preach it to the sinners. Law to the proud, grace to the humble. Tell them of their reward, be it heaven or hell
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You neglect the fact that according to their own testimony most people that are in the Churches are still committing sin. Yeshua said to these that their names will be blotted out of the book of life.
They should be told. Not many will ever hear this preached in their Church.
Many or most sitting in pews will be destroyed in the lake of fire.
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08-25-2010, 08:57 PM
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Re: Should the Message of Hell be preached in Chur
I say teach/preach things that are true and biblical. Hell is one of those things.
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