WPF back to UPCI - Page 2

Jack Shephard · #11 07-01-2010, 12:21 PM

For some people once you taste leadership you don't want to give it up. So no I don't see them going back either. I hope they don't either. Just saying.

MomOfADramaQn · #12 07-01-2010, 12:25 PM

Who cares - glad my church is not a part of any organization.

SOUNWORTHY · #13 07-03-2010, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Yardley

Not in one aspect- the WPF ministers are constantly expounding on their version of pastoral authority. They are all about fellowship with other ministers- to the detriment of the body. At all the meetings, etc. it is constantly advertised for all the special 'minister and families only' functions. (This is more than the usual!) Their sermons (generalization, i know- but a lot) are about obeying the pastor, submitting to leadership, loving your pastor, etc., etc. Propagating this type of message where faith is placed in man over God, will only lead to crumbling foundations.

While I believe pastor authority is Biblical (and by that- very clear in its limitations and role), the WPF meetings have gone over-board. Soon, I believe you will start seeing fall-out in church ministry and saints under some of these leaders that have become 'pentecostal popes.'

The cry of 'enough' is bound to start reverberating in some of these churches.

A pastor earns love and respect, it can not be dictated.

Falla39 · #14 07-03-2010, 11:32 AM

[QUOTE=SOUNWORTHY;933737]A pastor earns love and respect,
it can not be dictated./QUOTE]

Or demanded! My dear old late father, who was a pastor of
many years would say, "Adults do not like to be treated like
children! They will resent it"! The sooner this is realized, the
better off everyone will be". We're talking about adults, and
not children. Parents should be the ones to teach obedience
to their own children. The pastor has his own family to bring
up in the fear and admonition of the Lord. In many cases if
we have waited for the pastor to correct our children, which
was our God-given responsibility, we've waited too late. By
that time only God can do what needs to be done. And HE may
hold us as parents responsibile. Did we feed them spiritually
as well as physically. Did we teach them godly principals as
they grew. If we haven't done our part, don't expect the
pastor to work a miracle.

Just some thoughts

Falla39

Jack Shephard · #15 07-03-2010, 11:37 AM

Just a thought....Why would you go back to something that you believed God delivered you from? That is whether it was leaving the UPC for something more conservative or something less conservative.

luzsilver · #16 07-05-2010, 02:20 AM

WHO OR WHAT IS WPF , I WISH EVERYONE WOULD STOP USING ABREVIATIONS NOT ALL OF US KNOW ALL THESE ORG, PLEASE IF YOU START A THREAD EXPLAIN THE WHOLE THING CLEARLY.

tv1a · #17 07-05-2010, 05:09 AM

Whiney Pentecostals Fellowship

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Originally Posted by luzsilver

WHO OR WHAT IS WPF , I WISH EVERYONE WOULD STOP USING ABREVIATIONS NOT ALL OF US KNOW ALL THESE ORG, PLEASE IF YOU START A THREAD EXPLAIN THE WHOLE THING CLEARLY.

oletime · #18 07-05-2010, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

whiney pentecostals fellowship

idk ok lol PS Whats ORG ?

MawMaw · #19 07-05-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by luzsilver

WHO OR WHAT IS WPF , I WISH EVERYONE WOULD STOP USING ABREVIATIONS NOT ALL OF US KNOW ALL THESE ORG, PLEASE IF YOU START A THREAD EXPLAIN THE WHOLE THING CLEARLY.

WPF is Worldwide Pentecostal Fellowship.

I don't think the WPF will have a need to go back to UPC. I just pray both organizations can continue to lead others to Christ in these swiftly closing last days.

edjen01 · #20 07-07-2010, 12:30 PM

i don't think they will get back together. i believe most of the "ringleaders" left because of power issues...standards were only the excuse. JMO.