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Old 09-26-2018, 03:03 PM
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God gave man the right and freedom to choose between good and evil, and God informed man prior to such a choice what the consequences would be should he choose the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

Man was given the right and freedom to choose. But man was not promised immunity from the consequences.
No need to repeat your erroneous claim, I understood what you were saying.
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No need to repeat your erroneous claim, I understood what you were saying.
So, no one has any rights. And human equality is bunk. Hmmm... who does that benefit?
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Old 09-26-2018, 03:50 PM
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Okay, what kind of twisted ultra-con conservajunk are you trying to justify or peddle now? Just be up front. You want to hate people you deem are unworthy, and perhaps boost your own sense of self-value over theirs? Just be honest.

Biblically speaking, a very strong case can be made that women are definitely not equal to, nor as valuable as, a man. Should we really roll with that interpretation? lol
Get off my thread, troll.
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No need to repeat your erroneous claim, I understood what you were saying.
You are equally rude, arrogant and self righteous.
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Get off my thread, troll.
If he gets off, you'll have no one else responding to your meaningless question.
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You are equally rude, arrogant and self righteous.
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If he gets off, you'll have no one else responding to your meaningless question.
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There are two ways that all “men”—all persons—might be “created equal.” One is that they are all by birth or naturally political equals. This means that no one is legitimately the ruler of others by birth and no one is by birth the subject of a ruler.
This is clearly unbiblical. The sons of Aaron were given the priesthood, and inherited their office by birth. The sons of David were given the kingship, and inherited their position by birth. And that includes Jesus, who as Son of David according to the flesh, inherited His position as Messiah, King of Israel, by virtue of His birth.

Furthermore, the Bible everywhere recognizes the legitimacy of inherited kingship, even among non-Israelite "gentiles".

Also, as the man is the head of the woman, a male child is born with the " right to rule" over whoever shall become his wife. And finally, Deut 21:20 strongly if not necessarily implies parental authority over adult children, which they have virtue of being parents, which in turn means that authority relationship stems from the child's birth circumstance.

Therefore, the premise quoted above is unbiblical and therefore invalid.
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The other is that human equality goes deeper than just political equality. In this sense, all people are considered of equal value and worth, or equal in the eyes of God. All are created moral equals.
This is where serious difficulty with the concept of equality comes in. "All are considered of equal value or worth." What exactly does this mean? As pointed out already, value or worth has to do with importance, usefulness, and/or the esteem that something deserves. It also can mean to have a high opinion of someone or something, to consider it important or beneficial.

To claim everyone has equal value, then, means that each person is just as important as each other person. But is this true? Is the king of a nation more important, more beneficial, more useful, than a mere soldier in his army? If a person is the only one who can cure a deadly plague, are they not more valuable than a single person who is sick? Are they not more beneficial, of more use, to the whole of society, than anyone else, at that time?

Should all persons be esteemed or honored alike, with no distinction? Should not the selfless martyr, who dies for a noble cause, to save the lives of others, should such a person not be honored and greatly esteemed in comparison to the traitor, who betrays his nation and friends for monetary gain?

Does the hero DESERVE higher honour than the thief or coward?

As for being equals in value at birth, prior to doing any good or bad, consider this. God chose Jacob and rejected Esau before either of them had any moral character of their own. He says He loved Jacob and hated Esau. Did He not value Jacob more than Esau? Did He not esteem Jacob more than Esau, did He not consider Jacob more useful to mankind's good than Esau was? Was not Jacob more important in the Plan of God and to the future of mankind than Esau, or you or me?

So it seems that "equality" is in reality, a phantasm, created to make people feel better about themselves. It's the "everybody deserves a trophy" mentality. There is nothing wrong with recognizing that, for example, Abraham had more importance or "value" than oneself has. It doesn't mean you or I have no value at all. But it goes a long way towards helping us to be humble, to give honour where it is due, to remember we as individuals are part of something bigger than ourselves. When you know your place, you know you HAVE a place in a bigger program. Otherwise, you have no place - which means you do not belong.

"Equality", like most everything cooked up by the wisdom of man, is really just a deceitful and destructive lie.
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Re: Equality: Is it Biblical?

Scriptures emphasize equity more than equality. Our Heavenly Father is fair, just and righteous. He understands the strengths and weaknesses of His children. For we are all vessels of clay and His Love towards us is unmerited.

Psalms 8:4 (KJV) What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?”

Equality gives all the same level to be fair. Equity divides all to the level of needs to be fair. To much is given much is expected. It is the responsibility of the strong to care and nurture the weak.

Romans 15:1 (KJV) We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

We should strive to be the best that we can be in accordance to how we are made by our Creator. We should not measure ourselves with others potentials, but measure ourselves in meeting our own potential. In the Kingdom of God there is harmony; with both the strong and weak, because they each have their place in the house.

2 Timothy 2:20 (KJV) But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

To be with our Savior for eternity is the ultimate reward for the faithful. Rewards will be equitable in glory and we should not be concerned with if they are equal.

Psalm 84:10 (KJV) For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand. I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.

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