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Old 12-17-2018, 05:45 PM
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Re: Kingdom, Millennium, and the Reign of the Sain

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
(Ephesians 6:10-18)
Putting on the armour of God is primarily done through prayer. It is not done by reading about it, and then doing a mental checklist ("Yep, I got salvation, righteousness, truth...good to go!"). The apostle says "put on the armour of God... praying..." It is through prayer that the armour is put on. Prayer is a means not just of talking to God (He already knows everything we could say or think so prayer is not for the purpose of informing God of anything). Prayer is actually for our benefit, it changes us. By praying, we SPEAK THE WORD OF GOD into our own lives, and into the lives of others. And by this means the saint is equipped and armed for battle.

The prayer and supplication must be "in the Spirit". This does not mean simply "in tongues", but it must be Spirit led and born out of the Spirit's presence in our life:

Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Galatians 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.


In one place, the Spirit causes us to cry to God "Abba, Father". In the other place, it is the Spirit itself which is said to cry "Abba, Father." In other words, the Spirit in us causes us to speak forth certain things, and this is itself said to be the voice of the Spirit. Which, by the way, is nothing less than the RHEMA OF GOD, for it is God speaking in and through us by His Spirit.

We put on the armour of God through anointed Spirit-led prayer in which the Spirit causes us to speak forth the truths of our Salvation, Righteousness, Truth, the Gospel we have received, and so forth. In Spirit led prayer we affirm these truths, we speak them forth, we declare them. This enables us to be individually equipped to engage the enemy in battle. The battle will require the application or use of the armour, but before we can properly use the armour we have to put the armour on. And we must not only make prayer and supplication for ourselves, but we must persevere and do the work of praying for all our brothers and sisters as well.

Time for a Holy Ghost prayer meeting...
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It is of course the duty of a king to make war against the enemies of his people. As we have seen, Christ's Present Reign involves a war of conquest against his enemies, and we participate in that. But this warfare is not limited to the kingly authority and role. Remember, Christ is a Priest-King, like Melchizedek. And in the law, we see a type of this, for the priests were intimately involved in Israel's manner of waging war, and in fact they were indispensible to Israel achieving victory against her enemies:
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee. When ye blow an alarm, then the camps that lie on the east parts shall go forward. When ye blow an alarm the second time, then the camps that lie on the south side shall take their journey: they shall blow an alarm for their journeys. But when the congregation is to be gathered together, ye shall blow, but ye shall not sound an alarm. And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations. And if ye go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresseth you, then ye shall blow an alarm with the trumpets; and ye shall be remembered before the LORD your God, and ye shall be saved from your enemies. Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.
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Okay, let's unpack this. Israel was to have two trumpets made of a solid work of silver each. These trumpets were to be used by the priests, the sons of Aaron, during the wilderness wanderings to summon the tribes, or (at other times) the heads of the tribes, to the tabernacle of meeting. They were also to be used to signal that the people were to break camp and begin marching out on the next leg of their journey. There was a distinction in the sounds made by the trumpets: One such sound was "an alarm", and it was obviously distinguished from some other sounding or cadence which was "not an alarm". The two basic types of trumpet blasts were used for different purposes, and thus the people could understand what was called for depending on the type of sounds the trumpets made.

Silver was a primary form of money in the ancient world, more common than gold. It was in essence the "common currency" for numerous peoples and nations. Joseph was sold for twenty pieces of silver. The Tabernacle was built of wood, overlaid with gold and cloths, with the boards set in sockets made of silver. It is likely the half shekel ransom money every male Israelite had to pay was paid in silver. There are many truths hidden in the typology of the Scripture's use of silver, and this is not the time or place to get into all that here. What I want to zero in on is the use of trumpets by the priests in the event of war.

The priests were to blow an alarm with the two silver trumpets, and it is said that as a result of this, Israel would be remembered before Jehovah, and would be saved from their enemies. This is not to suggest that God had somehow "forgotten" them (God does NOT have memory lapses). Rather, it speaks of them going to war "against the enemy that oppresseth you." The enemy could not oppress Israel unless Israel had some kind of "sin in the camp" (Deuteronomy 28, etc). Thus, they had been "forgotten" by God in the sense that He had allowed them to fall into the hands of their enemies. If that were the case, and they went out to war against their oppressors, the priests had to blow the trumpets. This would bring them up in remembrance before God, that is, He would once again take notice of them and fight for them, giving them victory.

Also, whenever the priests made offerings during any of the Appointed times (feast days, etc), they were to blow with the trumpets, so that the offerings would "be a memorial for you before your God." That is, the offerings would then serve as a covenant reminder in the presence of God, so that the offerings would be acceptable to God and the covenant relationship would be maintained.

Now what kind of truths can we learn from this?

Part of the priestly function in the church is to provide a memorial before God on behalf of God's people. By sounding the trumpets, God's people would be remembered before God, their offerings (worship) would be accepted before God, the covenant relationship would be maintained. So how does the church "sound the silver trumpets" in order to enable victory in battle, and procure acceptable worship?
Blessed is the people that know the joyful sound: they shall walk, O LORD, in the light of thy countenance. In thy name shall they rejoice all the day: and in thy righteousness shall they be exalted. For thou art the glory of their strength: and in thy favour our horn shall be exalted. For the LORD is our defence; and the Holy One of Israel is our king.
(Psalms 89:15-18)
And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount. And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly. And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice. And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.
(Exodus 19:16-20)
God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet. Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises. For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding. God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness. The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.
(Psalms 47:5-9)
The trumpet blast represents the announcement of the presence of God, and His people being gathered to meet Him. In the church that announcement is to be made. It must be by divine appointment, that is, Spirit led. It must be for the purpose of gathering the people together TO MEET GOD. This is what enables the church's worship (offerings) to be acceptable, as a memorial before God. This is what presents the people before God, and serves as a memorial before God so that He enforces His covenant and gives them victory.

So how is the announcement to be made? I suppose it could simply be literally announced. But that would probably amount to a sputtering tweet on a kazoo, not a prolonged, clear, certain attention-arresting trumpet call. The call has to be given in the Spirit. It has to go up by prayer, and come down by prayer, until it saturates the entire congregation. There has to be a sound from Heaven, a Holy Ghost thundering of Divine power, that calls each to positive attention to the manifest, immediate presence of God.

Before the congregation can go out to battle, and expect to win, the trumpet must be sounded. It must be sounded to announce the troops are to be assembled for the fight. It must be sounded to announce the going forth of the armies of the Lord. It must be sounded on the march, and as the battle is joined, to notify everyone that GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF HAS STEPPED ONTO THE BATTLEFIELD ON ISRAEL'S BEHALF. Our Glorious, Divine Champion has come down upon the earth. Our God has arisen to smite the Adversary and deliver His people. "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered!" (Psalm 68:1)

And before the individual saint can go forth to battle, as a reigning co-heir with Christ, to fulfill his royal responsibilities and operate in royal authority, he must do his duty as priest, and SOUND THE TRUMPET, announcing by Holy Ghost anointed prayer and proclamation that Christ has him in remembrance, and will give the victory.
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I think the first step is to become living sacrifices denying the world and being conformed to the word, not the world. If too many people are distracted by entertainment, coming to church to pray through and feel God, then returned to a distracted lifestyle, we cant get there.

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12 I beseech[a] you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.

9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good. 10 Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another; 11 not lagging in diligence, fervent in spirit, serving the Lord; 12 rejoicing in hope, patient[c] in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer; 13 distributing to the needs of the saints, given[d] to hospitality.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.

17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have[e] regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 Therefore


“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
If he is thirsty, give him a drink;
For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.”

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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We are ambassadors for Christ. As a church we are seated with Him in heavenly places. We should be going forth, praying in the Spirit, speaking His word, as instruments for His will to be manifest, like Joshua, every place we set our feet. How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel. The gospel is the power of God for salvation and deliverance.

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Ephesians 1:15 For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all God’s people, 16 I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. 17 I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. 18 I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, 19 and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength 20 he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21 far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. 22 And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.
If the Old testament saints conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised. How much more should the church be impacting our world with Christ in us?

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Hebrews 11:32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning;[e] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
This coming year let's go forth boldly, praying and speaking His Word, taking back ground that is promised to us through His Word.
I intend to make an impact in Sebastian in this coming year through prayer and fasting and speaking His word in this city.
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We are ambassadors for Christ. As a church we are seated with Him in heavenly places. We should be going forth, praying in the Spirit, speaking His word, as instruments for His will to be manifest, like Joshua, every place we set our feet. How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel. The gospel is the power of God for salvation and deliverance.



If the Old testament saints conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised. How much more should the church be impacting our world with Christ in us?



This coming year let's go forth boldly, praying and speaking His Word, taking back ground that is promised to us through His Word.
I intend to make an impact in Sebastian in this coming year through prayer and fasting and speaking His word in this city.
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I'm surprised more people dont have anything to contribute to this subject. Should I be surprised?
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So Im reading this and its clicking loudly into place in my spirit.


Way back you asked "What should this look like?" I think that was the question.


Its always bothered me how every church Ive attended always behaved as if at any moment it could all be over.


Its drilled into us this idea that we need to be prepared to leave....be packed up and you and I both know that the logistics and mindset behind those two vastly different modes is like daylight and dark.


Getting ready to leave keeps us uninvested in where we are or who we are around. We are kept on such emotional high alert that getting bogged down and emotionally investing in establishing a position of strength logistically is counterproductive....such is the pitfalls of the pretrib position.


The position you are presenting "fits"...I know that we dont use that logic necessarily to establish doctrine...all Im saying is that in light of what you have presented it makes everything...our search for purpose...why are we here? who are we? what are we? what should we be doing?....it makes so much more sense.


My problem hasnt been with taking the easy way and the path of least resistance... Ive been playing with the rules Ive been presented and they havent clicked with me....there was something that just didnt fit...the problem is that Ive been playing by the wrong rules and Ive had to find the Truth...Truth like this...



This may sound like mad ramblings...its not...its just a stream of consciousness as Im trying to process.


Sounds like a lot more like a bloodless Jihad.


If some test pilot for a carpet factory can invent a crazy religion and take over the massive amounts of land converting their citizens...how much more should we be progressing being the hands, feet and mouth of the one true and living God?


Our priorities have been waaaaaaay off.


The change will have to come not from the pulpit but from Godly fathers and husbands leading their families.


We literally have to see ourselves as the king of our own kingdom that has been entrusted to by God....our kingdom may just be a population of 2 or 20+*lookin at you Duggers* but restablishing the direct nurture and admonition and removing all other corrupting outside influences...basically establishing a beachhead...if this is to be an invasion...lets get tactical.


This is where homesteading and being debt free and being self employed would be huge....not a slave to money and financially independent would be huge....more later got a passenger. Please dont think im weird for all this rambling.
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So Im reading this and its clicking loudly into place in my spirit.


Way back you asked "What should this look like?" I think that was the question.


Its always bothered me how every church Ive attended always behaved as if at any moment it could all be over.


Its drilled into us this idea that we need to be prepared to leave....be packed up and you and I both know that the logistics and mindset behind those two vastly different modes is like daylight and dark.


Getting ready to leave keeps us uninvested in where we are or who we are around. We are kept on such emotional high alert that getting bogged down and emotionally investing in establishing a position of strength logistically is counterproductive....such is the pitfalls of the pretrib position.


The position you are presenting "fits"...I know that we dont use that logic necessarily to establish doctrine...all Im saying is that in light of what you have presented it makes everything...our search for purpose...why are we here? who are we? what are we? what should we be doing?....it makes so much more sense.


My problem hasnt been with taking the easy way and the path of least resistance... Ive been playing with the rules Ive been presented and they havent clicked with me....there was something that just didnt fit...the problem is that Ive been playing by the wrong rules and Ive had to find the Truth...Truth like this...



This may sound like mad ramblings...its not...its just a stream of consciousness as Im trying to process.


Sounds like a lot more like a bloodless Jihad.


If some test pilot for a carpet factory can invent a crazy religion and take over the massive amounts of land converting their citizens...how much more should we be progressing being the hands, feet and mouth of the one true and living God?


Our priorities have been waaaaaaay off.


The change will have to come not from the pulpit but from Godly fathers and husbands leading their families.


We literally have to see ourselves as the king of our own kingdom that has been entrusted to by God....our kingdom may just be a population of 2 or 20+*lookin at you Duggers* but restablishing the direct nurture and admonition and removing all other corrupting outside influences...basically establishing a beachhead...if this is to be an invasion...lets get tactical.


This is where homesteading and being debt free and being self employed would be huge....not a slave to money and financially independent would be huge....more later got a passenger. Please dont think im weird for all this rambling.
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If its true that we are currently ruling and reigning with Him and that our faithfulness and aptitude is being evaluated...being in debt would be a rookie mistake....if we cannot wield something that only reflects the will of its user...completely neutral...neither good nor evil...how can we lead people much less rule over them?
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