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10-30-2007, 02:50 PM
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i will never forget
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Originally Posted by rkentsmith
Folks...
Families will be torn between churches....
Someone on this forum just told me they are placed in a bad place of deciding to leave with pastor..
Or keep credentials and stay....
The family and church will be torn......
Change for change sake is damaging once again...
We need a healer to step up and say enough....
Sometimes...
Doing right is dirty work....
The UPCI Needs a Healer
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You say you want healing, but what you are implying is that advertising proponents submit to an outdated system that shackles their congregation's ability to reach the lost.
That seems extremely selfish, petty, controlling, manipulative, and unloving to me.
Healing will not come by going back to what was. It can only come by accepting what is, and learning to tolerate each other's insignificant differences.
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10-30-2007, 02:52 PM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
Posts: 31,786
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Originally Posted by shamgar1
You say you want healing, but what you are implying is that advertising proponents submit to an outdated system that shackles their congregation's ability to reach the lost.
That seems extremely selfish, petty, controlling, manipulative, and unloving to me.
Healing will not come by going back to what was. It can only come by accepting what is, and learning to tolerate each other's insignificant differences.
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Loving that!
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10-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,415
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
Folks...
Families will be torn between churches....
Someone on this forum just told me they are placed in a bad place of deciding to leave with pastor..
Or keep credentials and stay....
The family and church will be torn......
Change for change sake is damaging once again...
We need a healer to step up and say enough....
Sometimes...
Doing right is dirty work....
The UPCI Needs a Healer
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Start your own organization and get over it....
The attitude has always been can so many good men be wrong.
When it came to standards and TV.
Now the majority has spoken you have the guall to step into the shoes of which you blasted for years. AND question the same men you held up as the reason why we should not question authority.
If you deem that you question their authority.
Then you need to leave.
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10-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Registered Member
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Conroe, Tx
Posts: 369
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shamgar1
You say you want healing, but what you are implying is that advertising proponents submit to an outdated system that shackles their congregation's ability to reach the lost.
That seems extremely selfish, petty, controlling, manipulative, and unloving to me.
Healing will not come by going back to what was. It can only come by accepting what is, and learning to tolerate each other's insignificant differences.
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If I remember correctly...
Shamgar got quite a bit done with an ox goad while his enemies had all the fancy equipment.....
God Bless
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10-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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i will never forget
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
If I remember correctly...
Shamgar got quite a bit done with an ox goad while his enemies had all the fancy equipment.....
God Bless
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That is right.
Shamgar used everything at his disposal to defeat his enemy and reap a harvest.
He did not worry about another man's field. He decided to protect his own harvest.
Think about it.
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10-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Simply put...
The UPCI Needs a Healer
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10-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: East Texas
Posts: 2,065
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shamgar1
You say you want healing, but what you are implying is that advertising proponents submit to an outdated system that shackles their congregation's ability to reach the lost.
That seems extremely selfish, petty, controlling, manipulative, and unloving to me.
Healing will not come by going back to what was. It can only come by accepting what is, and learning to tolerate each other's insignificant differences.
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10-30-2007, 02:58 PM
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i will never forget
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 151
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
Simply put...
The UPCI Needs a Healer
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Interpretation: The UPCI needs to reverse resolution four.
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10-30-2007, 02:58 PM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
Posts: 31,786
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkentsmith
If I remember correctly...
Shamgar got quite a bit done with an ox goad while his enemies had all the fancy equipment.....
God Bless
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And you are trying to say that you are hurt over all this - - - 
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Master of Science in Applied Disgruntled Religious Theorist Wrangling
PhD in Petulant Tantrum Quelling
Dean of the School of Hard Knocks
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10-30-2007, 02:59 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 45,774
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shamgar1
You say you want healing, but what you are implying is that advertising proponents submit to an outdated system that shackles their congregation's ability to reach the lost.
That seems extremely selfish, petty, controlling, manipulative, and unloving to me.
Healing will not come by going back to what was. It can only come by accepting what is, and learning to tolerate each other's insignificant differences.
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Is it me or does it just seem the legalists got more stricter as time went on?
The UPC was formed with two different groups that did not agree and supposedly would tolerate each other. Was it a lie? Was it a pipe dream?
I have a friend who was working with a client and on the wall was a plaque that read United Pentecostal Church, in spanish. He asked the guy about it to see if he was UPC. Well what ensued was interesting. The guy was from South America. I guess there is a "UPC" down there not affiliated with us. But the most interesting part was this: He asked why we OPs can't get along when Trinitarians from many different denominations can get together despite their doctrinal differences?
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